Subject: God is in control of every single atom? |
Bible Note: Greetings John! I'm heading out to work, so I'll have to make this brief! :-) Concerning your quote from Calvin, I don't believe that only those who are willing are drawn, I believe (per John 12) that all are drawn and (per John 6:45) that all are taught. However, only those who believe will be saved. But, this is off the track of this particular discussion since the subject is John 6:45. Did other translations ignore the face that 'listen' and 'learn' are active in voice? Here are the other translations: 1) NIV - "...Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me." Active voice 2) NKJV - "...Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me." Active voice 3) NRSV - "...Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me." Active Voice 4) RSV - "... Every one who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me." Active voice 5) ASV - "...Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me." Active Voice 6) KJV - "....Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." Active Voice 7) NASB - "...Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me." Active voice As you can see, every single translation has translated these first two verbal phrases as active voice. So, nothing I have said is in anyway in conflict with the major translation. Your previous post however treated them (and paraphrased them) as passive though. That was what caught my attention and why I responded. Well, I've got to run! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |