Subject: Thoughts on Romans 9 |
Bible Note: Thanks Brother Barry, Picking up your thought... In John 15:16, Jesus says, "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit--fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name." Jesus says specifically that we did not choose Him. If "the elect" is everyone, then what does the following verse mean? Matthew 24:31 "And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." So is every human saved? I know you are not a universalist! When Jesus knocks, do we respond from our own heart? Romans 3:11 There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. When Jesus knocks, we hear Him because He give us ears to hear... You are right, it is the Holy Spirit that tugs at our heart, and He gives us a heart for Him. We ouselves cannot desire Him on our own. In the final analysis, you are correct when you say, "it's not how a person gets to the point of Salvation but if indeed they are saved, if indeed one did accept Jesus into their heart." After being chosen, of course. (ok, a little dogmatic, lol) Blessings Curt |