Subject: Thoughts on Romans 9 |
Bible Note: Ben: I didn't comment on the other verses because I agree with you that all are outwardly called to repent. That brings about greater judgment upon the reprobate and is a means of grace to salvation for the elect. I do not hold that 1 Timothy 2 is talking about universal governmental atonement (or whatever clever name we could come up with). My point was that the Reformed understanding of the 1 Timothy 2:1-6 has to be reconciled with other verses which explicitly place some in the category of atoned for and others that don't (John 6:37,44,65 in its context being a prime example). Hence, does God want every single human being to be saved (and ultimately does not accomplish His desire), or does the "all" refer to all the elect rather than all of humanity? Scripture interprets Scripture, and I cannot reconcile an universal redemption view with the balance of the New Testament. What I find interesting is that you hold to election but reject particular redemption. In your view, why did Christ die for those who had not been chosen? Thanks! --Joe! |