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Subject: Jesus is wisdom argument leads nowhere. |
Bible Note: Hi Pastor Glenn, Yes, Glenn, In Luke 4:8 or Mat 4:10, Jesus quoted that verse of Deut 6:13 in reply to Satan where he says: “It is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” I see here that Jesus is saying that the acceptable worship to the Sovereign One of the universe should be Jesus’ Father, Jehovah and to direct our worship to him (Jesus as the universal Sovereign) would be contradictory to this mandate. How do you read it? . "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."' Since yhvh is replaced here in Mat 4:10 (yhvh is in Deut 6:13) in the translation you quote from, with the Hebrew word adonai or Greek kurios, do you subsequently conclude that Jesus was telling Satan to worship himself (Jesus)? If so, then that’s the whole point of our discussion. Originally yhvh was in the Bible over 6,000 times for a reason. That reason was to maintain the Father’s, the Almighty God’s true identity. You also ask: By your theology it seems that any angels could have stepped in and died for our sins. But what angel would have had power to get back up from the dead as Christ did by His own power? Jehovah God sent his only be-gotten son as John 1: 1 identifies as the “Word” and also says he was “with” God. John 1:14; 14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, yes, he actually cried out—this was the one who said [it]—saying: “The one coming behind me has advanced in front of me, because he existed before me.”) 16 For we all received from out of his fullness, even undeserved kindness upon undeserved kindness. 17 Because the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ. 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him. This verse also tells us Glenn, that man has “seen” Jesus but not God. It tells us too that Jesus, the only-begotten god has explained the Almighty God. The unparalleled “unity” in thought and love is there between Jesus and Jehovah. That is why Jesus could rightly say in John 14:6; 6 Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If YOU men had known me, YOU would have known my Father also; from this moment on YOU know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him: “Have I been with YOU men so long a time, and yet, Philip, you have not come to know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father [also]. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me? I stress again the point that Jesus makes in verse 10, “I am in union with the Father”, not that he is the Father, Almighty God. 1 John 2:5 shows that we as mere men also can be in union with the Father by saying, . 5 But whoever does observe his word, truthfully in this [person] the love of God has been made perfect. By this we have the knowledge that we are in union with him." I honestly believe that if the Jewish scibes has not changed the original "inspired Scriptures" that this difference of thought would not be here between you and me. Truthfinder |