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NASB | Revelation 3:14 ¶ "To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ¶ The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this: |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 3:14 ¶ "To the angel (divine messenger) of the church in Laodicea write: "These are the words of the Amen, the trusted and faithful and true Witness, the Beginning and Origin of God's creation: |
Subject: Jesus Created or Creator??? |
Bible Note: Only the humanity of Christ suffered. I see anywhere in the Scripture where it says Deity suffered for anything. Humanity can suffer. Jesus suffered, but not his Deity. Omnipotence when combined with omniscience can not suffer. God can no more suffer than to lie. It is impossible for God to lie. God has no weakness required for anger. Anger would mean he has limits to what he can do to accomplish his desire. Yet he has a need to express anger as a means to let us know something we should know ACCORDING to our way of thinking. If you wanted to communicate with ants, and ants express anger by twitching their antennae. You may tell them that your antennae is twitching fiercely over something they just had done. You have no antennae. And, you really are not angry over an issue only important to ants. Yet, they understand what you desire (a change in behavior and thinking) and they get the message. God must resort to that at times. Yet, God IS love. God does not simply love. God IS love. We love because God first loved us. God imparted love to us. You said... "Fear" in Hebrew means exactly that, fear. Why should anyone fear a God who never gets angry? " Fear also can mean deep *respect.* "Reverence" A fear of displeasing God. Yet, it says that we fear. Not God. It said God got angry? In other words it is like saying... God's antennae twitch fiercely when we do something wrong. Are you getting this? God already knows our eternal state. He expresses what is needed to correct us according to what we can understand and can relate to. He desires that we submit to his molding us. For only he knows what is to be. We can not see what it is that he is getting us to become. Why should God be angry with anything? Is he limited and unable to do what he desires to do? Anger is expressed only as a means to motivate us until we grow up more in understanding who and what God is. If we do grow, then truth becomes our main concern... not conditioning by pain and pleasure reinforcement. Still having a problem with this? God is not a man. Yet, Jesus Christ is the humanity by whom God is *interpreted* to us. The Greek says that Jesus *interprets* God to us. Jesus is God's perfect means to express what we can relate to about God, as to give us an accurate *concept* about what God is. " No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him [He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has _*interpreted*_ Him and He has made Him known]." (John 1:18 Amplified) What we can know about God has been INTERPRETED by Christ to us. We can not know God as God knows Himself. We can not know what it is like to be omniscient. Without Christ as our interpreter we could not have a correct concept of God that we can relate to in our way of thinking. For Jesus Christ is both man and God. He knows perfectly well how to explain and interpret God to men. Before Abraham was existing, Jesus was always interpreting God to mankind. He only became manifested in human flesh when it was the right time in God's plan. God already sees you as you will be. He may appear to get angry at times, but he is already seeing the finished product and is pleased with you, no matter how much you may fail to glorify Christ in time. That is, if you have believed in Jesus Christ. Yet, if we fail to grow up in grace and knowledge, anger and pleasure will be needed to try and get our attention back on the right path. God motivates us according to our understanding. Anger is needed by those who do not please God. Those who do not please God obviously have a poor understanding of God. So, he motivates and disciplines according to where these are in their understanding of Him. Some only respond to anger at a given point in their life. But, God is not really angry. He only would get angry if he could fail to achieve his desire. God does not fail. Man does. Grace and peace, Gene |