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NASB | 1 John 3:24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 3:24 The one who habitually keeps His commandments [obeying His word and following His precepts, abides and] remains in Him, and He in him. By this we know and have the proof that He [really] abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us [as a gift]. |
Subject: How do we know that we are truly saved? |
Bible Note: Hi Hank, You are right. The post was below my standards. I guess I wanted to show that we are not necessarily "controlled" by Christ. I, too, am a sinner and bound over to disobedience like everyone else. I, too can express an unloving attitude. Yet, in contrast, I expressed the fact that the love of Christ binds us together. The post was not absent of content for addressing the disagreement between us. Romans 11:32 has "shut up all" which is #4788 from 4862 and 2808, to shut together. 2 Corinthians 5:14 has "compels", #4912 from 4862 and 2192, to hold together. Both words are from #4862, with, together with. So my point is that we are shut up TOGETHER in sin (there is none righteous, not one), and we are bound TOGETHER in the love of Christ. 1) You have to understand that this discussion of "control", especially by the Holy Spirit, has been going on for four years, since my beginning days on the forum. I have tried to tell Kalos, "Hey, we have got to talk" for some time now. I thought it was time we cleared the air again. From the heart, Ray |