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NASB | 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin [refusing to admit that we are sinners], we delude ourselves and the truth is not in us. [His word does not live in our hearts.] |
Subject: Is sinless perfection possible on earth? |
Bible Note: I did read post #228628 and and your answer is pivotal on the word consider. However Roman 6:2 right above it does not contain the word consider. So you reasoning only holds if the word consider is presence which it is not in 6:2 where it says we are dead to sin. Or am I missing something? I'm not sure what the definition of sin has to do with this discussion. please explain. My problem or question is can we life in sinless perfection. When I ask this question everyone responds with "We are dead to sin, We are free of the law, the law no longer convicts us" My question then becomes what has changed. Abraham is in heaven. He sinned and was forgiven. We sin and are promised forgiveness so what is different? Yes I know Christ died for our sins. However if we look at Romans 6,7, 8 in particular. It talks of no longer being under sin dominion. However we are still tempted, we are still guilty of sin and must repent, and if we commit sin as mentioned in many places we are told we will not go to heaven. So what is different between how we live today and how Abraham who trusted in the Messiah for his salvation lived? |