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NASB | 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin [refusing to admit that we are sinners], we delude ourselves and the truth is not in us. [His word does not live in our hearts.] |
Subject: Is sinless perfection possible on earth? |
Bible Note: Dear Ed, My apologies to you personally, for bringing church history into the discussion. Nowadays people don't care about the historical context of the Founding Fathers, they want to interpret the Constitution in its own context. I forget that there are Bible "students" like that. Although, I had not forgotten that you have that view of Biblical interpretation. Others have a differing opinion on context and its value. Your original post precluded particular passages. You wrote, "other than Paul's decision in Roman 7 and this verse in 1 John 1:8." So, I didn't use them. I will recap my answer more simply: 1. Define sin and you have the answer to your question. 2. If you define sin narrowly, then the answer is yes. 3. If you define sin broadly, then the answer is no. 4. A good starting point for the Biblical definition of sin would be Psalm 51 for the OT and Matthew 5-7 for the NT. This is what I think (feelings are not of value -- we write here; we think here; we study here; we reason here) based on my understanding of Scripture. In Him, Doc |