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NASB | 2 Timothy 1:12 For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Timothy 1:12 This is why I suffer as I do. Still, I am not ashamed; for I know Him [and I am personally acquainted with Him] whom I have believed [with absolute trust and confidence in Him and in the truth of His deity], and I am persuaded [beyond any doubt] that He is able to guard that which I have entrusted to Him until that day [when I stand before Him]. [1 Cor 1:8, 3:13; Phil 1:6] |
Subject: Ephs 4:30; 1:13-14 |
Bible Note: Doc, My thanks for the information and links. I will surely visit those, but prior to, I wanted to express my thoughts and who knows, maybe after further study, I’ll gain an even better understanding. My thoughts are that once a regenerate is confirmed to be, by God’s workings, the will, which is still totally free to choose based on ones own thoughts and rationale, becomes a submissive will to God, and therefore desires God’s will for himself and acts upon that accordingly. I see many “free-willers” (which I am one) misunderstand just what free will is as Biblically defined. The misrepresentation is that once a person is indwelt by the Spirit of God, and sealed as God’s, that for one reason or another, should they so choose, they can reject God’s grace because of their free will and God’s honoring of that will which allows them to do so. This almost seems to negate any effect the Holy Spirit has on the person and insinuates that we can arrogantly overrule God’s calling and election and sealing. Almost to the point that the Holy Spirit is nothing more than ineffective and unable to keep us as promised. I find it hard to understand how one can claim to be saved and then directly say that he can loose that salvation should he choose to. In my opinion, one who is saved would not have the option of then choosing to be unsaved, because as God’s Word informs us, salvation, once graciously given onto a child of God, is forever, and our will, though free, is acting largely in part on other principles instituted by the Spirit and not so much on principles held in our hopeless, unregenerate state, although I think they coexist to an extent until glorification. Wouldn’t rejection be a frontal process and not an intermediate or later process? That once there was acceptance of God’s grace, and only as our response according to His calling, rejection would cease to be a factor. Your post from Perman “…we always choose according to our greatest desire…” had me thinking on the lines as to what drives our thought processes and determines just what we actually desire based on those. I was simply looking for more thoughts on the subject as I find this particular one to be most intriguing. Thank again for yours Brother. WOS |