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NASB	Romans 8:9 ¶ However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
AMPLIFIED 2015	Romans 8:9 ¶ However, you are not [living] in the flesh [controlled by the sinful nature] but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God lives in you [directing and guiding you]. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him [and is not a child of God]. [Rom 8:14]

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Subject: filled Holy Spirit, or to walk in spirit

Bible Note: Hello Doc,

I think we have a big misunderstanding concerning the "spirit nature". At this time, I wish to comment only on this issue. You wrote:

"Regarding your first point: what I am denying is that salvation creates a second man in the believer. Salvation does not create a kind of schizophrenia. Instead, a man is made whole."

To speak of a "second man" or "spirit person" is not the same thing as when we say a "spirit nature". A spirit nature is not a “person”, any more than the fleshly (carnal, or beastly) nature is a person. The “soul” is the person. Just as a believer’s soul sometimes chooses the carnal desires or nature (Samson’s life for example), the believer also can choose the spirit desires or nature daily. An unsaved person can choose whether to feed the natural desires of the flesh or not. So, I am trying to explain that while there is no real schizophrenia within a believer, there is a battle. However, I think that we both agree that the Holy Spirit dwelling within the believer creates somewhat of schizophrenia type battle against our "fleshly desires".

In short, even though we may never agree on the existence of a “spirit nature”, I am sure we agree on the battle of the flesh vs. the Holy Ghost.

I believe that this spirit nature is totally holy since it is born from the Holy Ghost.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Romans 8:7
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:5-6)

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

“For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.” (1 Corinthians 15:53-54)

Any comments?

Your brother in Christ,

Pastor Glenn