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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Bible Question: Did you read this part because it stands out like a sore thumb, I'm going to capitalize it not meaning to shout ""KNOWING FROM WHOM YOU HAVE LEARNED THEM, AND THAT FROM CHILDHOOD YOU HAVE KNOWN"" Now Beja, I know your counter-punch. You are going to tell me that Timothy was taught the scriptures during his childhood. When does infancy end and childhood begin? The interpretation I get from this passage is that Timothy already knew the truth that the sacred writings are saying. When Timothy read the sacred writings, it was a confirmation of the truth that was already in his heart. It was not a new discovery for Timothy. It was new in a sense that he recognized it for the first time, but it awakened something that was already in him at the time of his be taught the sacred writings. "ALL SCRIPTURES ARE INSPIRED BY GOD," but the inspiration to understand it and recognize it, that's an inspiration as well. You say Timothy learned everything from the sacred writings. I say it was already written in his mind and in his heart to understand and recognize the truth the sacred writings are talking about. (Ops, I sent this as a question, and I'm going to get banded from studybibleforum.com by the leaders of this sect. I will go back and send it as a note, sorry for the mistake.) |
Bible Answer: I'm not sure I caught an answer in that. Perhaps you did, let me recap and see if I read you correctly. Timothy already knew it, and when he came to this scripture he found it to be true with what he already knew, or perhaps recognized it for the first time though its truth was already hidden in his heart? Is that correct? If that is correct then what you are saying is that what this passage says IS TRUE, and timothy recognized it as such. Therefore if the passage is true that has certain implications does it not? That means that the scriptures were inspired by God, is true. I disagree with you as to how Timothy came to it, but even if Timothy was recognizing a truth he already knew then it is still a truth, and it says something that we are affirming as true. And that something it is saying is that all scripture is true and trustworthy! If THAT is true, then we need not test all scripture by Holy Spirit given feelings, but we must rather try to understand it, knowing that a right reading of scripture yields trustworthy authoritative truth. Because that is the truth Timothy discovered, attested to, or found true, etc. In Christ Beja |