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NASB | John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 10:28 "And I give them eternal life, and they will never, ever [by any means] perish; and no one will ever snatch them out of My hand. |
Subject: once saved always saved |
Bible Note: John I don't mean this to sound cruel or mean. But it appears at least to me that you are diluting the intended meaning of Jude 21. Even when you make the quotes "I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU,". That is true. But is that the whole of the matter or only the half? I believe those quotes are accurate. It's true that God will never forsake us or leave us. The other half, which some never take the time to ask is. Can the believer ever forsake Him, or leave him. I think Heb. 6:4-6 makes it absolutely clear that it is not God that forsakes or leaves us, but us, that forsake or leave God. If we are admoished to "keep ourselves in the love of God" why the warning, if the possiblity of being separated, from his love is impossible, imagined, or hypothetical as some believe? Just by simply looking at Jude 6 I could ask: were the angels who adandoned their abode, created evil? Did not God say that everything He created was good? So if it was created good by God, and was initially good, how did it become bad? I read where it was the angels who 1) did not keep their own domain 2) abandoned their proper abode, and now are reserved in bonds impending judgement. And how about the other 2/3 of the angels who did not abandon their abode? How was it that they remained in God's love and the other 1/3 did not? It wasn't God who abandoned them, they abandoned God, and they were at one time in His very presence, how much more likely is it for someone like us who have never been in His presence in the same sense as these angels to abandon the God who never Himself abandons anyone? Blessings New Creature |