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NASB | Mark 16:17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Mark 16:17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues; |
Subject: Why little sign of power in our churches |
Bible Note: Hey Ken, ".....Neither are gifts and the church....." Incorrect!.... If gifts and the church were tied together absolutely, then they would be absolutely manifested. But they are not, and never were. Even back in the first century, not all believers would exhibit gifts. Lack of salvation? Never. ".......Neither is the church and salvation......" Partly correct!... Correct in it's entirity. Eph 2:2-9 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. It is important to fellowship, but you are not saved because of it. ".....I think it's a good idea to fellowship with Christians, but it's not a salvation issue...." Maybe! Depends on the condition of the "Christians" and what influence I may bring into the gathering... Yes, if they are wolves amongst the flock, I agree, but I meant fellowshipping in it's purest form, with Believers not non believers. "....Salvation is grace, not church attendance or having a "gift"...." Maybe....A little to cultish here, I'm afraid.... Surely you jest. Eph 2:8 and 9 again? It is often cults that claim that only 'they' have the correct or true church. That is cultish. ...A good question you might ask yourself is "What salvation"?... Grace alone. ...There is one that must be worked out with fear and trembling... Yes, our gift from God must be worked out, or understood. But this does not imply salvation by works. However, that verse is at forefront of cults such as JWs. ...Does the church have part in that one?... In understanding one's Grace from God? No. BUT, we should fellowship with believers. ...How about the gifts?... Absolutely not. Never have, never will. Some charsmatic believe this to be so, as in if you can't speak in "tongues" you aren't saved. That is incorrect on so many levels. Take care, SUEDE |