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NASB | Mark 16:17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Mark 16:17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak in new tongues; |
Subject: Why little sign of power in our churches |
Bible Note: Hey Darcy, ...If perfection has come, why is there more sin in this world than probably ever... That's actually a bit of speculation on your part. Remember, during the 1st century, there was literally worldwide paganism. That is not true today. Though it seems like the the world is worse due to the Media, Christianity is spreading like a brush fire in the southern hemisphere. ...as the bible states in Matthew 24:37, "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah." Notice that it says "the coming" not "when I am here"... Yes, Christ's coming caught people off guard. It shouldn't have as they were forewarned, but it did none the less. ...As far as I am concerned in this day and age is far from perfection,.. I agree with you, and I'm certainly not saying the world is perfect. ...and the bible states very clearly that when he returns to earth this world will be perfect... Are you sure? ..What we refer to as the Lord's prayer You honestly think all this sin in the world today is his will?.. No, it's not his will, it's counter to it. But that's not a sign of Him not being here. There was great sin abound when Christ was in the flesh. ..The bible states that satan is the "god of this world" (2cor 4:4) In order to believe what you do you would have to say this verse is no longer true.. That's correct. Look at this, Romans 16:20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. Paul was telling people that were alive in the first century that God was fixing to crush Satan under THEIR feet. ..and if that is the case why is there still sin?.. Why would there not be? Sin came in via Adam, people today still have sin nature, they always will. We as humans are our own problem. Our sin nature is why there is sin in this world. ..In Rev 1:7, "BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him," I personally have never seen Him... Yes you have, you aren't realizing it though. You desire to see Him in the flesh, that's all. But He's here, you see Him in fellow Christians. ..How could Jesus clearly tell His disciples that He would be back in 40 years? When He didn't know Himself. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." (Mat. 24:36).. Actually, the answer is in that verse. Jesus as a man did NOT know the day or hour. But he did know it would happen within 40 years. That's the difference. ..Explain to me if Jesus came back 40 years after He left in Acts 1 why is it that John wrote the book of Revelation which clearly states the day of the Lord and the day of perfection when John didn't write the book until after 90 probably closer to 95 AD? John didn't write Revelation in 90 or 95 AD. That's a incorrect date, that unfortunately hinders people. A more correct date is between 60 AD and 67 AD. I can give you some info on this if you like. ...Out of the book of Acts and Revelation? show me.... Acts is easy, there's nothing to state that we are IN the Book of Acts. Acts is very much a historical book of the early, early church. Revelation was given to John to warn the early Christians that everything they had been taught over the past 40 years was in fact coming to a head. He warned seven literal churches that he probably established and warned the Christians in Jerusalem that they were to leave the Harlot of Babylon. That's right, Jerusalem was the Harlot of Revelation and was judged in 70 AD, again just as God said he would. ...The bible states in 1pet 2:24 I guess that verse no longer applies according to your theology... No it still does. I in no way remove Christ or His sacrifice for us the undeserving. ..Just one more thought. If the gifts have ceased where do you draw the line. At salvation? or has that GIFT ceased as well?.. Salvation is a gift from God in the form of grace. However, "gifts" or spiritual gifts typically imply tongues, prophecy, and perhaps healing. That's what most mean by "gifts". Has grace passed. Never. Have gifts like tongues passed? Yes. ..Also have you ever gotten a cold or the flu? And are no longer sick? If healings have ceased tell me this how are you cured?... Yes, our natural body has obvious failures. And we can heal those on natural terms, i.e. medication. Now, can God heal people? Yes, he's God. But is this still a valid common gift found in Christians? Not really. Healing is a tough one. Now as far as tongues and prophecy go, yes, without a doubt and full authority those have passed. Thanks for asking question, I hope you have more and will contiune the dialog, I'm enjoying it and I hope you are too, take care, SUEDE |