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NASB | Ezekiel 28:13 "You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ezekiel 28:13 "You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz, and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx, and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise, and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and your sockets, Was in you. They were prepared On the day that you were created. [Gen 3:14, 15; Is 14:12-15; Matt 16:23] |
Subject: origin of the devil |
Bible Note: Hi CDBJ, If you are happy with your own interpretation of the words then stick with it. Like you I seek to understand His words. But unlike Him we are all fallible. Of course the angelic court did not actually assist in the creation, for it immediately goes on to say that God did it. It was just an indication of the graciousness of God that He sought to bring them in on His plans, just like He does us. He worked together with them like He works together with us. He brought them in in this part of the creative work because they were going to be involved in it in the future. If you think it unusual that He would discuss His plans with the angels think how even more incredible it is that He discusses His plans with us. If you were all powerful and had at your command a myriad angels, would you trust you with the evangelisation of the world?. And yet He has. He could have done it on His own, but He works together with us. And why? So that we will benefit. So in my view in Genesis 1 He wanted His close servants to enjoy His creative work along with Him, for He had planned that they were to have their part in helping along the salvation of this vulnerable creature called man (Hebrews 1.14) and He wanted them in from the start. How often I have said to my children 'let us do this'. And then I have gone and done it. But the joy is that they then felt a part of it. They were doing it along with me, and theyhad an interest in it from then on. Consider how in 3.22 He says, 'Behold the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil.' Do you not think that that sounds more like a conversation with the angelic host? God wanted all His hosts to feel that they were a part of His plans. Of course the word elohim, when used of God, incorporates within it the idea of the unique make up of God (how careful though we must be when we talk about God as though we were able to understand Him). And yet He is also called El which is in the singular, but still includes the triune God. No human words can really describe Him. And we must recognise that our understanding of the triunity of God mainly comes about through Jesus. I think in fact that your final suggestion is a good one. God did not need to discuss it in Himself. Within His own being the whole thing had been already planned from start to finish. But consider the possibility that once He came to the part that the Cherubim, and the Seraphim and the angels were to have a part in He drew them into His plans. However, we must each see it as God reveals it in our hearts. Best wishes Jonp |