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NASB | Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a riotous brawler; And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. [Prov 23:29, 30; Is 28:7; Hos 4:11] |
Subject: Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, You wrote "The verses you cite do not grant permission to drink alcohol. They forbid a church leader from being a drunk. But, it does not necesarily follow that means that permission is granted to use some alcohol." Tim, you are evading the point which, as I have shown, is that the wine referred to was definitely alcoholic! The two verses (1 Tim 3:8 and Titus 2:3) clearly indicate that the wine spoken of, if taken immoderately (much wine) may lead to bondage (addiction). If it were not alcoholic no warning would have been necessary. This warning is as true today as it was 2,000 years ago, and I am in absolute agreement with it. The Scripture uses the modifier "much". My question is why? Does this not imply that alcoholic wine taken in sensible amounts is permited. John |