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NASB | Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a riotous brawler; And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. [Prov 23:29, 30; Is 28:7; Hos 4:11] |
Subject: Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol |
Bible Note: Hello Tim and John, Interesting discussion and points on both sides. QUOTE "But seriously, why is it always the people who refrain from drinking who are accused of going beyond the text, when there aren't any texts which explicitly command or permit drinking either? Implications can be drawn either way, but there are not any explicit commands either way./END QUOTE Tim I agree with that. Neither view should be held as going beyond the text. Personally though, I share John's view that it might be taken to be something of an inference that from the scriptures quoted, some alcoholic drinking was permitted if not encouraged. I would say that is the natural logic of the statements made. However on your following qu. QUOTE Now, you also mentioned communion. Which verse states that an alcoholic beverage was used to symbolize the blood of Christ?/END QUOTE Alcohol was definitely used as an anology to the Holy Spirit. The natural beverage that causes "joy" is alcoholic in nature. The spiritual drink that causes real JOY is the Holy Spirit... so might it not follow that the wine of communion may have been alcoholic and not just grape juice? |