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241 | What month was Jesus born in? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 103768 | ||
Khuck Rosh Hashanah is the Jewish New Year and many try to tie it back to creation, but I find that hard to do. We aren’t certain the year much less the time of year. Jesus fulfills the Old Testament and through His life we saw him fulfill the spring or planting feasts. Selection of the Lamb - Palm Sunday as he rode into Jerusalem on the exact date as told by Daniel. Passover the His death upon the cross, Feast of first Fruits His resurrection, Pentecost then infilling of the Holy Spirit as seen in Acts 2. The Fall or harvest feast yet remain. Many feel the Rosh Hashanah or Feast of Trumpets will actually be fulfilled when we hear the trumpet sound as described in 1 Thess 4:16. That Yon Kippur or Day of Atonement will be fulfilled with the white throne judgement. That leaves the feast of tabernacle. Some feel Jesus will fulfill that when we begin the millennium others feel it was fulfilled by His birth. Many feel because Rosh Hashanah represents the Jewish New year that Jesus fulfilled that by His birth beginning a new era. However Rosh Hashanah is the civil New Year, the spiritual new year is Nissan in the Spring. Here again many believe Jesus was born in the spring and thus fulfilled the spiritual New Year with His birth. I can buy that but I think there is a better dating. I view Rosh Hashanah more as the feast of Trumpet or call to reflection a time where Israel is to begin preparing itself for the Day of Atonement. In that light I can also view Jesus’ birth a very appropriate fulfillment of the feast. But once more the trumpet summons of 1 Thess 4 also fulfills it. And I think far better. Since Rosh Hashanah is a fall or harvest feast I would be very surprise if Jesus did already fulfill it, I see the field white for harvest.. That brings us to the feast of Tabernacles, it was never declared or considered a harvest feast other than the fact it occurs in the fall. However if we look at what it represents, the time in the wilderness or the Children of Israel’s freedom from slavery or the beginning of their deliverance, a time where God dwelt with them first on Mt Sinai and then later in the Tabernacle. This dwelling seems to speak to me of Jesus coming (birth) to dwell with us. I think Jesus’ fulfilled that with His birth but again the time of Jesus birth is at best conjecture since scripture does not give a definitive date. Whew that is a very short, very condensed view of the Jesus fulfillment of the feast and a reason for His possible birth in the fall. EdB |
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242 | What month was Jesus born in? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 103787 | ||
Where did you learn Jesus was born on the brightest night of the year? EdB |
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243 | Holy Spirit question on mysterious ways | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 103934 | ||
Ray I'm using my memory, we use to sing the song many years ago in church, however my memory is not good enough to remember the title. I did a search on Godgle.com (love that) and found out it was the verse from the hymn by William Cowper in his hymn call "Moves in Mysterious ways His Wonders to Perform" written in the 1800's Also about 15 years ago I lost a hamburger bet with an evangelist over this. I knew the quote and thought at that time it had come from scripture before it was put in the hymn. So I bet a hamburger. Learned two things, never bet, especially with someone that brings the subject up. :-) And two, that quote is no where to be found in the Bible. EdB |
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244 | Satan caste to earth... | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104191 | ||
Hi You posted your answer to my response and I think you were addressing Monica's question. I moved your post to her question. By the way excellent answer. |
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245 | changes13th- 14th centery in religion | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104237 | ||
Stever Read what you posted here, "I guesss I would like to know about some of the events and New testament vs. the old testament in someone elses ideas. I know that it did but some special things that stand out! In the 13th and 14th centery! Someone other than myself!" I'm sorry but to me this doesn't make sense. EdB |
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246 | changes13th- 14th centery in religion | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104283 | ||
PESHTRACK16 I'm not real sure why you posted this to me, however thank you. You gave a good synopsize of what took place however some important elements are missing. It wasn’t as cut and dried as all of that. One of the biggest factors that came into being was the change in human philosophy. People felt that they were able to chart their own course over having it charted for them. If you remember this time period is also known for revolutions and overthrowing of various governments, it was a time of social unrest. The reformation was fueled with political and social issues as much as it was with religious issues. The church had become a political power and many of the reformation wanted nothing more than to wrest this power from the church. Martin Luther as a priest became disenchanted with the direction the church was taking and attempted to change that course. He became a pawn in the political upheaval and much to his dismay found himself instead of effecting change rather becoming a divisive factor in church. The split between Rome and Constantinople or as you put between Catholic and Orthodoxy was more a power play, who would be Pope. There were two Popes and both wanted total control. They were fighting over issues such as who was first in various processions and such. Eventually the bickering lead to a split that was widened even more over issues of service order, icons, marriage of priest, calendar year, ancient manuscripts and Rome’s refusal to come to Constantinople's rescue when they were under Muslim pressures. EdB |
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247 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104451 | ||
Kalos You said, “Also, I think we can safely say that there is a real way to judge which translations are more literal and which are less.” Yes we can but how do we determine which is the MOST literal Most Accurate? How do you determine short of knowing the original language and original word usage(some have been lost and are unknown) and having the original manuscripts which translation is the most literal? Better yet how do you determine which manuscript is most correct? Some are older but they also show signs of what many believe to be tampering that the newer manuscripts don’t. Mark 16 case in point. Also word choice is personal and can effect the literalness of the translation. For instance. Paul said he saw a huge cow in Greek but let just say there is no word for huge in English. One translator may choose large and another big which one is the most literal? Is one more literal? Is one more accurate? How do "you" determine this? In Hebrews 9:4 there is word translated in some texts as golden censor and in others as altar of incense. Which is correct? You might want to know the debate rages among theologians and has yet to be settled yet when and if it is we can say that translation was more literal than the others. Your statement "This statement itslef -- "The claim to which is most accurate is nothing more than opinion and sales hype" -- is an opinion (in my opinion). :-)" Correct me if I'm wrong I would think if it were provable there would be some court cases since nearly all Bible translations which make the claim to literalness have also made the statement "most" literal translation or most accurate translation or most closely represents what the actual speaker said. I have seen NKJV say it, along with NASB, along with ESV and KJV. Now if was provable not mere opinion or sales pitch one or the other would insist the others cease and desist. Kalos as far as literalness some Bible readily admit they have sacrificed literalness for readability or understandability. So no not all Bibles are literal translations nor do they pretend to be. Your statement, “If there is no such thing as the most accurate translation, then it would follow that all translations are equally accurate -- from The Message to the KJV.” Takes liberties with what I said. I said, “There is no real way to judge “THIS” since translation and interpretation is more an art than a cut and dried science. Some passages are ill handled in one translation and others in another.” My emphasis on THIS added to show that my answer was referring back to the question, “which translation is the most accurate version.” EdB |
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248 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104472 | ||
Justme Absolutely but we can't say the NASB is more accurate than say the NKJV and be totally correct. Since it is not possible to do an exact word for word translation, we can't say this literal translation is more accurate than this translation. We can say it is very literal and we prefer it over another, but to claim it more accurate is nothing more than opinion or a sales pitch. The reason I included the NLT is your right they are a more D. E. translation but in some cases the words or the phrase they used better translate the actual meaning than another. I use the NLT almost as a commentary, if I have a passage that is hard to comprehend I will read it in the NLT. Many times the NLT paints a very accurate picture of the idea the writer was trying to express. The reason I did not include the NIV higher is I have a distaste for Zondervan and their betrayal of the Christian community by publishing and promoting their attempt at polictical correctness in their gender neutral TNIV. To me any Christian that loves Jesus should totally boycott Zondervan. I know I have. EdB |
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249 | Satan caste to earth... | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104473 | ||
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250 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104551 | ||
This of course is very unbiased summation of the the Lockman NASB Bible done by .... Lockman??? Therefore it is fact and not a sales pitch EdB |
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251 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104552 | ||
Snicker Kalos I will give you the NASB is the very very literal translation and a very very accurate translation but to call it is the most literal or most accurate is based only on opinion. While this is an impressive list of endorsements nearly the same list can be produced for the KJV, NJKV and ESV. In fact one of members on this list has said nearly the same thing about ESV. So he is saying the NASB is most accurate here and that the ESV the most faithful (I think this was the word used) to original there. EdB |
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252 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104553 | ||
Huron They all border on interpretation. Some are word for word and others like the NIV are thought for thought. The fact remains many Greeks words cannot be directly translated into English because no such word exists. Therefore the translator has to interpret what the writer meant and pick the English word/words that most closely conveys that meaning. NASB has done an most excellent job and I really like the NASB but because translation is not an exact science to call the NASB the most accurate translation is nothing more than opinion or sales hype. What should be said is, 'In the opinion of group of very distinuished Bible scholars the NASB has been judged to be the most accurate.' However other Bibles make that same claim. EdB |
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253 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104556 | ||
Kalos I don't certainly don't want to shake anyone's confidence in the excellent Bible translations we have available to us. NASB is an excellent translation and I prefer it. However the fact remains that translation is a not an exact science where compromises and interpretations come into play. While I think Lockman and their translation team did an excellent job and in many cases I prefer their decisions over the ones made by other translators, to say their translation is authoritatively the ‘most accurate’ is simple not possible. I would recommend the NASB to anyone that wanted to a very literal translation but I would also ask them to consider the KJV, NKJV and the ESV also. I feel any of these four in particular do an especially excellent job at presenting the true word of God in accurate and faithful manner. That is all I’m saying. EdB |
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254 | What is the most accurate version? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104557 | ||
Kalos All I'm saying is when a direct word for word translation is not possible and a compromise must be made, who can say this word is more accurate than that word when neither exactly convey the meaning of the original? I may say I prefer this word but you might prefer another, does that make one of us wrong and the other right? No! What it really means is, to me this word most closely represents what I think the writer was saying and you think your word does the same. If we did this in honesty and a desire to be as faithful as we could, does it make one of us more accurate and the other less? I don't think so. EdB |
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255 | Why children as well? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104709 | ||
I think your right here Edb |
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256 | Why children as well? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104710 | ||
Absolutely and once again I reiterate God has declared Himself just, scripture says God can not lie so therefore what seems like injustice to us is really not, but is in fact justice and we just don’t have all the facts to completely understand. EdB |
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257 | Why children as well? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104740 | ||
Ngop The thing that disturbs me the most is people are quick point an accusing finger at God, saying, "why did God allow this to happen?" Then these same people ignore the fact that 40 million plus babies have been killed by their own mothers and they even have the audacity to call it a right and a choice. EdB |
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258 | Why children as well? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104791 | ||
Ngop You may be right in some cases, however in most people are trying to justify themselves outside of God. They believe if they can make God look bad then what they do won't be so bad. This is an age old tactic that most parents of two children experience. You call one in to discipline them and they immediately say, "well yes I did such and such but bro/sis did THIS!" This is there attempt to divert you, to make what they did pale in comparison to what their sibling did. Visit any prison after you get past "I'm innocent" the next thing they will say, "is yes I killed some one but at least I'm not like Joe over there, he is killed five or raped a child or whatever." So yes while I would like to believe it is someone with a healthy curiosity I find it is usually a person in sin trying to make themselves comfortable rather than yielding to God. That is why I used this open example, to show them pointing a finger at a just God trying to justify themselves doesn’t play well. Sin is sin and what they need is to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior to cleanse them of sin, not human justification. EdB |
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259 | Why children as well? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104800 | ||
Don't confuse man's mercy with God's justice and mercy. The question I was answering was why not adopt the children and I explained that children most often weren't adopted and were left to fend for themselves. However I never meant to imply God's action was simply out of mercy, because frankly I don't know, but God does. As to your point that abortion could be justified, has real holes. First a child can be adopted in this age. There are many many couples what would kill to adopt a new born. Rape is a hard one but killing the resulting baby does not mimimize the rape or its effects. If anything the mother must also carry the knowledge not only was she raped but that she also killed the baby. Abortion has terrible after effects that few want to talk about. Mercy is not killing someone, mercy is doing what ever you can to make that person's life better. As to your question of church member. Each of us are going to die, we have no promise. Evidently this man's time was up, to me it looks like God in His mercy waited until this man got saved before calling him home. Now the family can be assured their loved one is waiting for them in heaven. Why did God give his young mother and her children this path to walk? I have no idea. But this I do know God has promised to make all things work to the good of those who love him and are called to His purpose. Romans 8:11. What good is going to come out of this? I have no idea but I do know looking back from eternity we will understand and see it all and then we will proclaim God just, righteous, merciful and loving. EdB |
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260 | Nazirite ... immaculate conception??? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 104945 | ||
Just so there is no misunderstandings which part of the your response to Searcher56 may pertain to me? I went to swordsearcher site and the only thing I found there was an ad to get me to buy a freeware copy of their program. I do not down load from the internet as a way to protect my system from viruses. As for Bible programs Logos/Libronix/Nelson and Iexalt and many others make excellent programs, their cost is reasonable when you think of the cost buying the same material in hardcopy. I have found freeware and Bible programs on the web tend to use material that has had their copyrite expire therefore can then be freely posted to the web. Therefore they tend to be dated and in many cases contain information that has been proven wrong by more recent discoveries. EdB |
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