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1 | Is the Sabbath on Saturday? | Bible general Archive 1 | Brother Billy Joe | 74249 | ||
Dear Taleb It is unfortunate and sad to think that you would misuse the tragedy of the Holocaust to bolster your argument. The Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon kept the Sabbath in orbit around the earth last week before his tragic death (See CNN Special Report "Tragedy in the Sky". I would think his family would be offended that he would be called a "the weak believer" and "weak in faith" because he was a Sabbath keeper. Ilan Ramon was a Sabbath keeper. I am a Sabbath keeper. I am proud to be in the same "weakness" (as you put it) as this brave couragous man. Pastor Billy Joe |
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2 | Is the Sabbath on Saturday? | Bible general Archive 1 | Taleb | 74261 | ||
Sir, it IS unfortunate and sad that you would misuse my post in a fruitless attempt to prove (?) your faulty argument. True, the Israeli astronaut was brave. He was a STRONG believer in his faith. Had his religion ALLOWED him the freedom that Christ offers us, than he could have had the freedom that I, and others, who accept the truth of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, have. To worship our God with the FAITH that HE gives us. We all have a measure of faith. It’s what WE do with it, and HOW we live it, that makes that faith weak or strong. Romans 14 gives the “definition” of what those mean. At the same time, the Israeli observing his Sabbath has absolutely NO bearing on the basis of whether we Christians MUST worship on the seventh day or MAY observe Sunday or even Tuesday. Ramon would be the first to ask you, “Why do you observe on OUR day? The Christian church from its conception NEVER DID for centuries and centuries.” He would point to the same evidence I pointed out yesterday. Don’t forget, sir, it was the Jews who wrote the evidence you refuse to accept because it disagrees with your religion, even if it DOES agree with God’s Word. Either YOU accept what the New Testament says about this truth, or YOU ignore them and stay in bondage. Don’t blame me, my heritage, or a brave man who can’t defend himself against your illegitimate use of his tragic death. And I KNOW, not only his family would be outraged that you would dare to promote your "religion" in such a ungodly manner. All of Israel and beyond would be. HOW DARE YOU? And, sir, it was Paul who was inspired by the Holy Spirit, who called the CHRISTIANS who attempted to force their burdens on CHRISTIANS who knew the freedom Christ offers – as being weak. Please don’t try to give me credit, or blame, for God’s word. To Him be the glory, not me. I will close this with truth from God’s word, that you can accept or reject according to your faith – If you answer the question that God’s word asks you, it will tell you “the condition” of your faith – “Romans 14:22 “Do you have faith?” Only you can answer that. Continuing, “Have it (faith) to yourself (that’s you) before God (not man or doctrines).” Now, the test: “Happy is he (you, me) who does NOT condemn himself (you, me) in what he (you, me) approves.” If you feel condemned by not observing Saturday, observe. Just don’t try to weaken our faith. We want to remain strong in the truth of God’s word, thank you. With righteous indignation, Taleb |
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3 | Is the Sabbath on Saturday? | Bible general Archive 1 | Brother Billy Joe | 74502 | ||
Where was your "righteous indignation" when you used the Holocaust in "a fruitless attempt to prove (?) your faulty argument" or condemn others that keep the Sabbath were "weak in faith" and "in bondage". Where is your "righteous indignation" when you condemn Jews or Israelis for keeping the Sabbath becasue of your "misuse" of the NT. You started your slander in an "a ungodly manner" and now hypocriticaly condemn others while you do the same things. If anyone is "under bondage" it is those people like yourself who do not obey God and condemn others who do so. You are not "free" but in the most abject bondage of all - disobedience to God. Paster Bill J |
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4 | Is the Sabbath on Saturday? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 74508 | ||
Greetings Pastor Bill! I have been following this thread with some interest. Yet, I cannot see any place where Taleb condemned those who keep the Sabbath. He simply said that those who do should not judge those who don't. Which of course is what Colossians 2:16 says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." The New Testament does not forbid anyone from worshipping on the Sabbath, but neither does is command anyone to do so. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Is the Sabbath on Saturday? | Bible general Archive 1 | Taleb | 74557 | ||
Tim, thank you for re-enforcing what God's Word explains to all who "want" to obey. The verse you quoted in Colossians 2:16 was always so frustrating to my Messianic Jew relative. Most of my practicing Jewish relatives refused to talk “religion” with him. And any Mormon family members, well they wouldn't even look him in the eye. I think it might have been because he only accepted bits and pieces of Scripture. I do appreciate reading your postings about whatever – they make for a great teaching and learning tool. Thank you for being so quick to help so many. Taleb |
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