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1 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 61718 | ||
Hank and the rest of this forum, I looked up this old thread dealing with God's sovereignty because someone recently said that "God is in control of every single atom." Then they used that reasoning to say that it follows that God chose His Elect before the foundation of the world, so free will is an illusion. They then further implied that He purposely made some to dishonor. If God purposely made some to dishonor then why would he say this: Ezek 33: 7"So you, son of man: I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; therefore you shall hear a word from My mouth and warn them for Me. 8When I say to the wicked, "O wicked man, you shall surely die!' and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, THAT WICKED MAN SHALL DIE IN HIS INIQUITY; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND. 9Nevertheless if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. 10"Therefore you, O son of man, say to the house of Israel: "Thus you say, "If our transgressions and our sins lie upon us, and we pine away in them, how can we then live?"' 11Say to them: "As I live,' says the Lord GOD, "I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?' If God is in control of every atom then why would He say ”… THAT WICKED MAN SHALL DIE IN HIS INIQUITY; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND…”? This reasoning would then lead right back to this thread: "Is God responsible for evil?". I have had past experience in a different forum, of atheists, where this exact same thread of "Is God responsible for evil?" was debated. In that forum some of the participants would sign up as a different person and start threads from the opposing view point. After a while, they would pull off their sheep’s clothing and revert back to their original view point to frustrate the Christians. I don't know who may be wolfs in disguise. I am not accusing others who have posted here. You can't really know if I am not one either. But we should be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves." We are warned to "beware of false prophets in sheep’s clothing". "Be not weary in well doing. In due season we will reap if we faint not." God bless, Pastor Glenn |
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2 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 61731 | ||
Pastor Glenn, your comments are indeed of interest and thank you for them. My, my, that post of mine to which you have appended your note does go back a ways -- to April of 2001 -- and I had to read it to learn what I'd said :-). Having done so, I discover that what I believe about the issue today is identical to what I posted on it nearly a year and a half ago. A cow, in a certain sense, creates milk, but she doesn't cause it to go sour. God created man but He didn't cause him to sin. Blessings. --Hank | ||||||
3 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | Pastor Glenn | 61753 | ||
Hank, Yes, your old post really goes to the heart of the matter. It looks like a couple people are still around the forum from those "olden days" of 2001. ;) The forum search feature is very useful. God bless, Pastor Glenn |
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4 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 61764 | ||
Pastor Glenn, I'm gratified that you have discovered the Search mechanism and that you find it useful. I would indeed urge all newcomers to the forum to avail themselves of the resources of the forum via Search. So many repetitive questions and comments routinely appear on the forum and this is easily avoidable if the newcomers -- and even old-timers, such of them as have a short memory! -- would go to Search first before asking a question or re-hashing an issue that has been extensively explored before, as our hosts at the Lockman Foundation suggest. It's good to have you aboard, sir. --Hank | ||||||
5 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 61770 | ||
ooops, I forgot to credit Geoff Thomas--Part 2 3. Limited purpose does not rule out indiscriminate preaching There are a people whom God the Father has given to God the Son (John 17:2 etc.). They have such titles as "the church," t"he people of God," "the children of God" or Jesus' "sheep." Often in the New Testament we are told that Christ's death was focused upon accomplishing their salvation: "He shall save his people from their sins" (Matthew 1:21); "Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" (Ephesians 5:25); "Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one" (John 11:51-52); "You do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand" (John 10:26-28). The Lord Christ has fulfilled God's purpose in saving all those who are his people. Yet to every single person in the world without exception the Christian may sincerely say, "I have good news for you. I have Christ crucified for you to believe upon. I have this Saviour who is prophet, priest and king for you to receive, and serve." The Christian must then invite his hearer(s) to believe his message, and demand that he do so, and even beseech him in the name of Christ that he does not go on in unbelief. The Christian does that to every single person without distinction or discrimination. The Christian quotes to all men the words of God, "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God and there is none else" (Isaiah 45:22); and again, "As I live saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ezekiel 33:11). The Saviour is presented to lost men as one who has accomplished a full and perfect redemption, who would sincerely save them from their sin, and who takes no pleasure in their death. 4. Preservation does not rule out perseverance Every true Christian experiences the continuous operation of the Holy Spirit by which the work of divine grace begun in him is continued and brought to completion. This doctrine is clearly taught in Scripture (John 10:28-29; Romans 11:29; Philippians 1:6; 2 Thessalonians 3:3; 2 Timothy 1:12; 4:18). Every believer is preserved by the power of God through faith unto salvation (1 Peter 1:5). Yet the Bible teaches that every Christian must persevere on his individual pilgrimage. That guards against every notion or suggestion to the effect that a believer is secure, that is to say, secure as to his eternal salvation, quite irrespective of the extent to which he may fall into sin and backslide from faith and holiness. While a Christian may and does sin he cannot abandon himself to sin; he cannot come under the dominion of sin; he cannot be guilty of certain kinds of unfaithfulness (e.g. the sin which is unto death). So, though the believer is preserved he is not secure utterly irrespective of his subsequent life of sin and unfaithfulness. He will persevere in believing in God. It is not that he will be saved irrespective of his perseverance but he will keep plodding to the end. His preservation is inseparable from his perseverance. |
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6 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 61771 | ||
And 1 more short Part 3 5. Love does not rule out law Christian love is the greatest of all. It is the "distinguishing mark of the Christian life" (John Blanchard), "the badge of Christ's disciples" (Matthew Henry), "the leading affection of the soul" (Matthew Henry), "the queen of all the Christian graces" (Arthur Pink), "the silver thread that runs through all your conduct" (J. C. Ryle). Without love a church is nothing at all (1 Corinthians 13:2). The new commandment Christ gives his people is to love one another as he has loved us. By this fervent pure affection the world will know that we are God's people Love is the most godlike grace. Yet Paul says, "The law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good" (Romans 7:12). Of course it must be; it comes from God; it displays his very nature. Paul cries, "I delight in the law of God after the inward man" (Romans 7:22). He loves the law because it shows the perfections of the Holy One. The Christian is freed from the law's condemnation and curse through the saving work of Christ. No longer is the law to him a dread voice accusing and judging. Christ has quenched Mount Sinai's flame; the believer is freed from sin and from the law. But now he becomes the bondslave of Jesus Christ his great liberator, and so fulfills "the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). "If you love me, keep my commandments," says the Saviour (John 14:15). Love is the Christian's inward motive; but the law of Christ is his directive. As someone has put it, "Law is love's eyes. Without law love is blind." These twin themes, the outworking of the revelation of God's sovereignty, both taught so clearly in Scripture, are the stuff of holy conversation and profitable meditation.(geoff Thomas)http://www.founders.org/FJ24/article2.html John |
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7 | God is in control of every single atom? | Bible general Archive 1 | birtie basset | 61785 | ||
i am going to put it out of control for there is asking in prayer what i hear and am giveing pleasure to many people the atom is just about ended around itself and my truth allows those who are ready to be lifted into glory none of them seeing my face come on back inside my love... | ||||||