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1 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 60241 | ||
Ed, "Where we disagree, is that I believe a person can reject that truth. I also believe God gives each and everyone that glimpse into to spiritual reality at least once in each person’s life." That is a very nice sentiment. However you must back it up with scripture or it is merely human sentimentality. "In your last comment you used the verse that said the potter can do what he wants with the pot. Your right that speaks directly to the sovereignty of God, it is not talking about salvation, it is talking about such things as talents and handicaps. God give talents and allows handicaps as he see fit. This passage has nothing to do with salvation." Rom 9:21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? Rom 9:22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? Rom 9:23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, Rom 9:24 even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles. Sounds like salvation to me. How do you see handicaps and talents in this passage? John |
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2 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 60246 | ||
Suggestion to switch threads .................... Dear John and EdB, In your last post John you asked for scriptural support for EdB's belief that it is possible for a human to reject God's truth. I would suggest that Matthew 23:37 is a good example. God sent His truth through prophets, and desired for the people to be saved, but they rejected and killed them instead. ............................................................ I would also llke to suggest that since this branch of this thread is not really on the topic of the Left Behind books, and since there is a relatively empty thread on the verse Matthew 23:37, that you both continue this discussion there instead. Just an idea :) |
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3 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 60257 | ||
Sir Pent, John and other forum members. Again I must apologize. First I allowed my self to take a thread on a wild goose chase on subjects it does not pertain too. Second allowing myself to get involved in discussion that hasn’t been able to be satisfactorily resolved in over 400 years. Third to get involved worrying about something I have absolutely no control over. How the miracle of salvation happens is beyond me I admit it. I just know salvation is real, It happened to me, praise God! And now I’m to be salt and light to this dark world. John I believe we can one up each other with supporting scripture until the cows come home. I don’t think you will change my mine and I don’t think I will change yours. Let us put the plow back in the barn, the soil has been plowed and the ground is fertile, let’s us plant seeds of hope in others lives. EdB |
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4 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 60260 | ||
Dear Ed, Believe me when I say that my intenton was not to get one up on you or anyone else. I am passionate about what I believe and perhaps overly zealous in my replies, but my motivation is love for the brethren. I've learned much since coming to this forum and I hope my earlier rants have been tempored somewhat (by the grace of God) and the example of those wiser than I. If I am wrong let me know. John |
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5 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 60282 | ||
John What I meant was we can go tit for tat. Or for every verse you supply I supply a contradictory verse. I believe from what I have read there are an equal number scriptures supporting opposing views. Which explains why the debate rages even after 400years. There are very very learned men on both sides of this fence. As I said the miracle of salvation astonishes me and I will be the first to declare I can not explain it. However, my understanding of God and John 3:16 leads me to believe Jesus died for every man, women and child. I do not know the answer to the why all do not believe. But nothing in the Bible convinces me it is because God choose to exclude some With that I put away the plow and I will not drag it out again. EdB |
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