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1 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 42567 | ||
Hello Joe, I can see there is no need in debating this with you because you have been blinded by the Calvinist viewpoint. But let me say that as adults we are all sinners. Rom. 3:23 The first sin that was ever committed was by Adam and Eve. Eve first then Adam was decieved by satan. But we DO NOT inherit sin in this case "Original sin" from the sin that Adam committed. This is not biblical and the verse that you point out is from a prayer that David offered up to God for Him to forgive David his sins. But because of sin there is death and that is all. Look at this verse, Romans 5 Death in Adam, Life in Christ (1) 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and DEATH THROUGH SIN, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-- Now read this next part carefully, 13(For UNTIL THE LAW sin was in the world, but SIN IS NOT IMPUTED WHERE THERE IS NO LAW. Therefore the need for the Ten Commandments. So the people would know and be able to read and understand for themselves. We are not judged by what Adam and Eve did! You cannot show me a verse that says this. But you might find it interesting that the bible does say that each man is accountable for himself, Ezekiel 18 20 "The person who (1) sins will die. The (2) son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the (3) righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. So by this you can see that you view of "original sin" is in direct contridiction of what the bible teaches. For sin is when we transgress the law of God and not just by being born. 1 John 3 4 Whosoever COMMITTETH sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. If on the other hand had it been like you say then David could not have made this statment about his son that died. 2 Samuel 12 22And he said, "While the child was alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, "Who can tell whether the LORD[1] will be gracious to me, that the child may live?' 23But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I SHALL GO TO HIM, BUT HE SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME." David was stating the fact that his son was in the arms of the Heavenly Father. These scriptures that I have shown would also show that "total depravity" is also not biblical. Anybody that can look into the eyes of their newborn baby and believe that it is "defiled" ,"depraved", covered in sin and utterly without hope unless they are sprinkled with a few drops of water has got some serious issues and needs to seek guidence!! Raven!! |
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2 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42579 | ||
Raven, you made a statement in your post that blows my mind and I guarantee you that I am not a Calvinist. You said in your post, But we DO NOT inherit sin in this case "Original sin" from the sin that Adam committed. If we don't inherit our old sin nature from Adam, then who do we inherit it from, since it is passed down. If what you say is true, and babies are not born with an old sin nature, why then did the Messiah have to be sired by God Himself in order not to have an old sin nature? Don't confuse sin with sins; I commit sins because I was born in sin. I didn't even have to be trained how to commit sins, because it was in my nature! When a person believes in Jesus Christ they get a new nature that constantly wars with the old one that we will continue to have until this body dies. Romans 7:15-25 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. |
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