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1 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42141 | ||
Joe, explain if you would how an infant can have a good conscience toward God by believing in the resurrected Christ? 1 Peter 3:20-21 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: You could baptize a boy everyday of his life until he is eighteen years old if you like, but if after that, by chance he dies, having never trusted in Jesus Christ for his salvation he is going to hell. That isn't reform theology from Calvin, it is informed facts, from the Bible! Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Am I wrong in saying the following and if so why bother! Baptism doesn't do any more for the (so-called) Christians that are trusting in their baptism then did circumcision for the Jews who put their confidence in the removal of a little flesh instead of trusting in the coming Messiah. Maybe I am a bonehead, but I still can't see in the Bible where Christian baptism ever precedes faith in Christ. If people want to dedicate their children fine, I'm not saying that it is wrong, just don't call it baptism because biblically speaking baptism always follows faith in Christ. CDBJ |
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2 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 42198 | ||
CDBJ and Joe, In the context of your ongoing conversation, what are your thoughts on this passage? Especially the last part of the passage. "To the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is they are holy." 1 Cor 7:12-14 Emmaus |
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3 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 42304 | ||
It is quite a challenging passage, isn't it? I think it causes problems for the Baptist because there is a clear indication that the belief of the parent has some effect on the child's standing before God (i.e. that the child is "set apart"). I think it causes problems for the paedobaptist Protestants because there is no specific mention of baptism as the instrument by which the child of the believer becomes "holy." I think it causes problems for the Roman Catholic and the Anglo-Catholic wing of the Church of England for the same reason above, as well as the fact that if baptism is regenerative "ex opere operato" (i.e. that original sin is washed away simply by the performance of the ritual), how does one explain the "consecration" of the unbelieving spouse? They certainly are not set apart in any special way because of baptism, since no professing church of Christ that I know of baptized unbelieving adults. Quite a quandry! How does the Catholic respond to the "consecration of the unbelieving spouse" problem, since that cannot possibly mean baptism in the context that Paul is describing (I think it is safe to assume that the pagans being addressed in Corinthians had never received a Trinitarian baptism in infancy)? --Joe! |
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4 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 42318 | ||
Joe, As far as I know there is no official Catholic position on this passage. I agree it is challenging. I certainly do not have any definitive answer. One might assume (although you have already been chastised for that) the children were baptized. But where does that leave the unbelieving spouse? What leaps to my mind is "they become one flesh" which leads to some other questions, some of which have already bee touched on regarding the relationship between circumcision in the OT (only for males) and baptism in the NT (for all) and becoming a member of the Covenant Community or the People of God. Paul addresses some as he continues in 1 Cor. This was not a question for which I had already formulated a pat answer. The question just came to my mind as I was follwing your exchange. Emmaus |
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