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1 | So when did "evil" start? | Bible general Archive 1 | LisaMarie | 22885 | ||
Yes, but you're speaking of KNOWN lost books such as those in the Nag Hamadi Library or the Coptic Orthodox church. I don't care for someeone flinging out informtion and SAYING it came from a lost book without giving reference as to WHERE they got this info. I'm not talking about the Apocrypha, which have purposely been omitted from some bibles. I'm talking about things like the Gospel of Thomas or the Gospel of Mary Magdalene (complete text yet to be found.) Yes, they're still finding gospels today! And hopefully will continue to do so. But I think this whole "lost book" fad is going awry when people claim passages from lost books but don't give evidence. That's what I was talking about. |
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2 | So when did "evil" start? | Bible general Archive 1 | Sir Pent | 22894 | ||
Clarification ................................... Dear LisaMarie, I recommended that you do a search on this topic. Obviously, you did not do that. If you had, you would have found the following posts (among many others) which are clearly speaking about the exact same books that you are talking about. For your convienence, I'll just quote several of my distinguished colleagues on this subject. 1. "Fortunately, there aren't any lost books of the Bible. There are apocryphal and pseudepigraphal which were excluded from the Old and New Testament canons. There are also gnostic writings found at Qumran. However, there isn't any historical evidence that any of these three classes of writings belonged in the Bible. Now, there are some that think some of these belong, but it is pure speculation. For instance, many liberal scholars love the Gospel of Thomas because of its New Age style theology. If you want to read some of these various kinds of texts, you can go to: http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/(tilde)humm/Resources/Texts/index.html Note: put a 'tilde' where you see the (tilde) in the adress above. These are interesting historical texts to read, but please remember that they are not Scripture. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran" 2. "There are several "lost" books; the "Gospel of Thomas" is probably the most infamous. There is also a "Gospel of Peter", a "Gospel of Mary [Magdalen]", "Pistis Sophia", and a few others. There is also a hypothetical Gospel named "Q" which is not known to exist in any form. Copies of many of these were found in Egypt at Nag Hammadi in 1945. Liberal theologians are making a lot of noise about the "discovery" of these "lost" books despite that fact that most of them have been known and their authenticity and claims refuted for more than 100 years. The reason these books were "lost", of course, is that they espoused heretical views - mostly gnosticism - that the early church firmly rejected. They are now presented as equivalent or even superior to the NT, revealing "alternate Christianities". The appeal is obvious: if you don't want to be accountable to a Jesus who sits in judgment, just hang out with one who learned his stuff in India. If you are prepared to believe that Jesus was a Buddha (please say you're not!), you may enjoy them. I recommend "Hidden Gospels: How the Search for Jesus Lost Its Way" by Philip Jenkins (Oxford University Press, 2001). Hope you find this helpful. stjones" 3. "Hi and Welcome to the forum! From time to time there are have been those that pop up and say they have found a lost book of the Bible. However God in His faithfulness has completed and preserved the Bible through centuries without fail. Or in other words there is no lost book of the Bible. Those that have claimed to be are the Gospel of Thomas, Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher, Book of Isaiah II, and at one time or another most of the books of the apocrypha. However after close examination all have been found to fail to meet the requirements of the Cannon of the Bible. And many have been declared actual frauds. As I said the Bible is complete. Hope this helps. EdB" |
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3 | So when did "evil" start? | Bible general Archive 1 | LisaMarie | 23384 | ||
No reason to be rude. If I took every person's "recommendation" I'd never have time to actually read the bible. No harm, no foul... Can you tell me how many of your friends here are bible scholars, with credentials? Different "authorities" on the bible have extremely different views. The Bible wasn't "born" in it's current incarnation. Different "books" were written by different individuals, a patchwork quilt if you will. Hence the "Eloheim" writings and the "Yahweh" writings. But now "we" have filtered all that out. Purified it and refined it to just God. I disagree with this. I think we should keep it as is. But I'm just a reader. No historian. No credentialed bible scholar. Essentially, in Hebrew history, "Lord" was the highest label one could have so why not call him that? Yes the writing is divinely inspired, but the compilation of the book was still in the hands of man. That's why it repeats itself. The same teachings filtered through different individuals. What you seem to be telling me is that you are in disagreement with any text being added? Such as the Dead Sea Scrolls? Am I correct in this understanding? As for me, I want to know everything I can about my Lord. I love Him and I don't want to miss a single word of text. I have several different versions just to make sure I get it all in. As for your friend in quote 2 - Buddhists hold Jesus in the highest regard. A buddha is simply an enlightened person. There is an ancient Pali text (now believed to be in the Vatican) that tells of Jesus and his stay in Tibet. They know him as Issa. I might recommend books by Thomas Merton (Trappist Monk) and Thich Nhat Hahn (Vietnamese Buddhist Monk). They fueled each others passions in a very profound and moving way. Ta! Lisa |
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4 | So when did "evil" start? | Bible general Archive 1 | Brian.g | 23394 | ||
Lisa I'm not a Biblical scholar, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn. I'm told the door was closed on new writings being added on this simple basis: Understand the true purpose of the Bible and with that, what more (thoughts, words, beliefs, ideas and so on) could be said or gained that isn’t already in the Bible. I agree that it is wonderful to read every word about God, which you can get your hands on. And, there is nothing stopping you from doing this. But, do these words truly belong within the Bible. Do they add to helping the Bible accomplish its purpose? Maybe someone can help me locate this verse, I can't remember or locate it, in effect it said that there isn't enough room on earth to write down every important thing that Jesus did in His life, so the author was only documenting the significant events. The Bible, as a whole, is just that, it focuses on the significance - not every single detail of every single moment. We know Jesus ate every day, but to record every meal is less meaningful than to document The Last Supper. By the way, I've enjoyed reading your posts. Brian |
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