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1 | were angels saved by works? | 2 Pet 2:4 | John Reformed | 97462 | ||
Dear DL5, Your answer is indeed simple, however, I would feel more comfortable with it if you had provided a scriptural foundation. 1) Satan was the first created being to commit an evil act, but, the bible does not support the notion that creatures are able to create something out of nothing. Aside from that, what makes you think that "evil" is a created thing? 2) While it is true that the elect angels did not rebel, the question is: Did they not sin because they were elected by God? Or, were they elected by God because they did not sin? 3) To me at least, it appears to be apparent that God placed the Tree of Knowledge in the garden as part of His eternal purpose, which was to have His Son save a people who would love and serve Him throughout eternity. I don't believe that the "Tree" was created after the fall of the angels for this reason: Gen 1:31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. "We do not know precisely what their sin entailed—it was doubtless some act of willful rebellion against God—or precisely when they lapsed into sin, but at the end of Genesis 2, the events of which come within the sixth day of Genesis 1, God pronounced that all that he had made was "very good" (Gen 1:31); therefore, it would seem that the angelic fall had not yet occurred. But at the beginning of Genesis 3 we find the Tempter enticing Eve to sin against God. So apparently Satan and his angels fell at some point in the period of time between Genesis 2 and Genesis 3." (Robert L. Reymond) John |
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2 | were angels saved by works? | 2 Pet 2:4 | DAIRYLEADER5 | 97553 | ||
Hi John, sorry I thought the writer of the string wanted opinion, this was mine.As far as the tree, In Gen. we see that God said all things that He created was good, later we see that there was a tree of ,Knowledge of Good and Evil,Sence God cannot be evil,satan had to create it, and in my opinion evil was allready present before the world was finished.P.S. who is Robert L Reymond?.never heard of him. DL5 | ||||||
3 | were angels saved by works? | 2 Pet 2:4 | John Reformed | 97569 | ||
Dl, the tree was not evil in itself. What was evil was breaking the command not to eat of it. Why do you think evil was present when God said it was all good? Reymond is a professor at Knox theological seminary. John |
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4 | were angels saved by works? | 2 Pet 2:4 | DAIRYLEADER5 | 97574 | ||
Hi John again I disagree look at what God said when he was showing, adam the tree, eve had not been created yet, the reference to evil knowledge was allready with the tree, prior to eve being the first transgressor. I wish all members of the forum for their opinion. DL5 | ||||||