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1 | the angels that sinned | 2 Pet 2:4 | Makarios | 96785 | ||
Greetings Darcy, 1) I agree, Job 1:6 is speaking about angels when it mentions "sons of God." However, Job and Genesis were written by two different human authors, and it is not guaranteed that both of these human authors were using "sons of God" in the same sense given the context of each place in Scripture. 2) In Luke 3:38, Adam is not mentioned as a "son of God" in the same sense that Genesis 6:4 and Job 1:6 are speaking of. In fact, the only reason that Luke 3:38 mentions "..Adam, the son of God" is in reference to geneaology ONLY. Other scripture passages such as 1 Cor. 15:22,45 describe Adam as a man who sinned, and therefore, could not be a "son of God" in any more sense than we are, except for geneaology purposes ONLY. As for Christians becoming "sons of God", that is a topic that has no relation to this topic. Also, you said: "Now why there are some fallen angels bound and some not. After the Flood we know that Angels kept having relations with woman (ie. Goliath and his brothers are the offspring)Those angels are now bound." There is Absolutely NO Scriptural evidence for this statement. Also, Genesis 3:15 has Absolutely NOTHING to do with angels/line of Seth being "sons of God." You also stated: "Now I think the reasons for the Angels going into the daughters of men was to defile the seed that the Messiah would come from. Satan tried this tatic but it didn't work because Noah was righteous in God's eyes. (Gen. 6:9)" There is Absolutely NO Scriptural evidence for this statement. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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2 | the angels that sinned | 2 Pet 2:4 | Truthfinder | 96791 | ||
Hi Makarios, Interesting subject. I don't think anyone can provide Biblical evidence that wicked angels could materialize after the flood nor married after the flood. Great post, through and through. I know why some "think" they could materialize etc, but their explanations are not accurate knowledge. I agree with you too that Adam was called "a son of God", but those that have descended from him have been born with inherited sinful tendencies. Since they were born of one rejected by God, Adam’s descendants could not claim the relationship of being a son of God simply on the basis of birth. This is demonstrated by the apostle John’s words at John 1:12, 13. He shows that those who received Christ Jesus, exercising faith in his name, were given “authority to become God’s children, . . . [being] born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God.” Sonship in relation to God, therefore, is not viewed as something automatically received by all of Adam’s descendants at birth. This and other texts show that, since Adam’s fall into sin, it has required some special recognition by God for men to be designated as his “sons.” This is illustrated in his dealings with Israel. Truthfinder |
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3 | the angels that sinned | 2 Pet 2:4 | Makarios | 96812 | ||
Greetings Truthfinder! I agree, and thank you for your post! However, I must ask, have you given any more thought to Jesus Christ as being the Son of God? Blessings to you, Makarios |
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4 | the angels that sinned | 2 Pet 2:4 | Truthfinder | 96818 | ||
Hi Makarious, Since our last dialogue, a little. For the past 40 years, I have researched it through and through. I feel I totally understand why you and many like you do believe that Jesus is Almighty God Jehovah. I too understand why it would be difficult to convince you otherwise. I have no problem with it and respect you for your convictions. God is our judge, not me. My posts since December 2002 contain most of my conclusions that convince me to feel the way I do. Jesus is the Son of God. Truthfinder |
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5 | the angels that sinned | 2 Pet 2:4 | flinkywood | 96832 | ||
Truthfinder, you say, "I feel I totally understand why you and many like you do believe that Jesus is Almighty God Jehovah." After 40 years of "through and through" research, you maintain that Jesus was created and is not co-eternal with God. I cannot understand your conclusion, so how do you "totally" understand ours? Since you understand so well, would you please answer this question: 1) Why is it that we believe Jesus, our Lord and Savior, is God incarnate and is co-eternal with the Father and the Holy Spirit? Colin |
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