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1 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | Net | 111955 | ||
OK I have to respond to this as a student of winemaking. Wine is OK in moderation to drink while pregnant. I drink wine occassionally in moderation and I am breastfeeding. The argument that the women who might be pregnant at the feast couldn't drink wine is no good. They could drink a little. In addition, in bible days, people often drank wine diluted with water because the water was not microbiologically stable. The wine killed the "bad stuff" in the water and made it better to drink. Also, you do not have to add sugar to wine to make it. This is laughable. The grape berries have enough sugar for the yeast to make alcohol out of. The yeast that makes bread also produces alcohol. That's what yeast does. It ferments the sugars into CO2 and alcohol. Both are produced in bread and wine. I am shocked to see how there is a lack of understanding of how wine is actually made. It is illegal to add sugar in California, where I live. I am from Napa. I know more than the average person about making wine. I've worked in a winery before and I'm in school to be a winemaker, as I said before. The wine made in biblical times was not as drinkable as the wines produced today, therefore it was common to drink the wine diluted so it didn't taste so bad. The bible does not say to not drink water and drink only wine, it says to not just drink water and drink a little wine. To quote a famous saying, wine is one thing, drunkenness another. |
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2 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | EdB | 111956 | ||
I really don’t question your expertise but: Alcohol, pregnancy: The consumption of alcohol during pregnancy carries the danger of damaging the fetus. MedicineNet.com Fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) is a condition characterized by abnormal facial features, growth retardation, and central nervous system problems. It can occur if a woman drinks alcohol during pregnancy. Children with FAS may have physical disabilities and problems with learning, memory, attention, problem solving, and social/behavioral problems. When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, so does her unborn baby. There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant and there also does not appear to be a safe time to drink during pregnancy either. Therefore, it is recommended that women abstain from drinking alcohol at any time during pregnancy. Women who are sexually active and do not use effective birth control should also refrain from drinking because they could become pregnant and not know for several weeks or more. National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities. As to adding sugar your did you ever hear of “yeast nutrients” that is added with every batch of wine made in the Napa Valley? It is purified glucose (sugar) EdB |
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3 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | Net | 111959 | ||
I think that alcohol in minimal amounts during pregnancy is fine. That's just my opinion. People have been drinking around the world for centuries. I have known people who drank alcohol during pregnancy in moderation and their babies are all just fine. I had a few drinks when I was pregnant as well and my son is highly intelligent. I just don't think that it's a valid argument to say that Jesus wouldn't have made alcoholic wine because there were pregnant women present and God knows that alcohol is bad for babies. Yeast nutrients consist of DAP, or diammonium phosphate. The yeast needs nitrogen and phosphate. This is usually added to hurry along a sluggish fermentation. Once again, it is illegal to add sugar to the fermentation in California. It is only legal to add sugar where the grapes won't ripen to full maturity(sugar level). This is in places like France and Germany. In the winery I worked in in Napa Valley, they only added sulfur and yeast to the fermentations. That is typical of the wineries there. The grapes in Napa are picked at a high sugar concentration usually so there is no need to add sugar anyway. The yeast can produce levels of 12-13percent alcohol by volume on a regular basis without adding sugar. Higher levels of alcohol are taxed at a higher rate. |
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4 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | EdB | 111961 | ||
I talked to my wine expert and I stand corrected NAPA valley does produce grapes with unusually high sugar content of 20 plus brix which under ‘perfect’ conditions can produce 10 plus percent alcohol. However this is not the norm and to do this the wineries still have to add to the juice substances that just weren't available in Bible times. I think even you will agree that 1-3 percent without the addition of sugar is the norm world wide and that at least 10 percent is needed to prevent spoilage. Also as you said wine made this way is bad smelling and even worst tasting. Also people can not live drinking wine in place of water. Alcohol is a natural dehydrator that actually pulls water out of the body. A person would literally die of thirst if they had nothing but wine to drink. Therefore they had to drink water, the quality of which is no better or worst than what is drank today in many places in the area. As for drinking alcohol during pregnancy I don't think you have the credentials to override the advice of medical community, which is NO alcohol during pregnancy. EdB |
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5 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | Net | 111994 | ||
Who said that people had to drink wine in place of water? That would most definitely be impossible. I just find it impossible to believe that Jesus made wine with no or little alcohol. I never said that I possess any credentials to override the medical community. I stated that those were my opinions. You certainly read a lot into my statement that I never said. | ||||||
6 | wine and acohol | 1 Tim 5:23 | EdB | 111998 | ||
I'm sorry. Let me then just say your opinions stand in direct opposition to the sound advice offered by the medical community. I’m also sorry I put words in your mouth about the water, but popular myth has the people of Biblical times drinking wine instead of water for hygienic reasons which is complete nonsense. Lastly while you may find it impossible to believe Jesus provide non alcoholic wine at the wedding. I find equally impossible to believe he provided over 60 gallons of booze then said drunks are in danger of hell’s fire. I humbly apologize for reading anything into your comments. EdB |
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