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1 | The Lord told me to tell you..." ? | 1 Thess 5:20 | Pastor Glenn | 140602 | ||
Hello Doc, "Cessationism ... ... In orthodox Protestanism it is simply about sola scriptura. This is the advantage that Zaspel mentions (i.e., The scriptures, "the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience"). Well, cessation is in house debatable. I see the scriptures focus on "fruit" (Gal 5:22-23) of the Spirit rather than "gifts" of the Spirit. After we rank all gifts, as well as, rank all fruit, we get prophecy as the greatest gift and love as the greatest fruit. Love then, ranks above prophecy (1 Cor 13:2,13). There is no debating this: Gal 5 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 1 Cor 13 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 13And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. Some churches look for gifts to show spiritual growth. But, isn't the Church full of "fruit" much better than the church full of "gifts"? Any comments? Pastor Glenn |
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2 | The Lord told me to tell you..." ? | 1 Thess 5:20 | DocTrinsograce | 140691 | ||
No arguments with your deductions, Pastor Glenn. Clearly, love is the summum bonum. However, we have to be careful not to divide things up into boxes where they don't belong. The fruit of the Spirit is one "thing" not nine "things." Paul is describing one thing (i.e., fruit of the Spirit) not nine separate "stand-alone" attributes. In other words, you can't just have love and say that you are manifesting 10 percent of the fruit of the Spirit. Still and all, I agree with your inference: If the sheep are manifesting the fruit of the Spirit, who cares about gifts? The gifts will take care of themselves. In Him, Doc |
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3 | The Lord told me to tell you..." ? | 1 Thess 5:20 | Pastor Glenn | 140693 | ||
So Doc, you are saying if one item is missing (joy or peace for instance), then we do not really have the fruit of the spirit? Interesting way to look at it. Your brother in Christ, Pastor Glenn |
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4 | The Lord told me to tell you..." ? | 1 Thess 5:20 | DocTrinsograce | 140760 | ||
Yes, the fruit of the Spirit is a unified characteristic. Of course, that makes sense, can you imagine being loving but unkind, etc.? Of course, there are situations where one might imagine patience being manifested more clearly than joy. The Greek, from what I can tell, does not irrevocably bear me out... (e.g., fruit, fruits, etc.) but I don't know enough about Greek prepositions and participles, etc. In Him, Doc |
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