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1 | Aren't we in the age of GRACE? | Rom 8:28 | ngkh | 141160 | ||
Hi Doc, Allow me to share some thoughts about my understanding of grace. If I'm not wrong or if I understood a Pastor's message correctly according to Romans 8:1-4, as we have faith in God, so shall He have the holy spirit in us to guide us. Thus the holy spirit in us will sort of take over and therefore we will not live according to the sinful nature. For e.g. the following was my experience. Before I came to the Lord, at times when I was presented the bill after a meal, I noticed that the restaurant had left some items out. Did I call the waiter to inform him of the error. I am ashamed to admit that I quickly paid the bill and thought how lucky I was. However, same scenarios happened again now after being a christian. With no hesitation, I have always informed the waiter of the error and paid what ever is due. Was I afraid of the law? I don't think so. The law was never in my mind. I believe the holy spirit in me told me to do what is right. By living in the age of grace, I believe it means that the holy spirit is in us now when we believe and by Jesus blood, even when I have sinned in the past, I've got a clean slate the moment I said my sinners prayer and by growing in Him, the holy spirit will dwell in me that I no longer have to think about the law for as Paul had said the law shall have no dominion over me. Question is, do I truly believe that the holy sprit is in me? I believe it does. But then again, why am I at times questioned God when I believe that the spirit is in me? If I questioned God which means my faith level is only at this height, does it mean that the spirit I have is only in my head? I don't know. Perhaps Pastor Glen will be kind to help me out on this. As per my church's theme for this year. "Grow yourselves to grow others". I wondered on how on earth do I grow. After 18 months, I still have yet to read the bible from cover to cover and there are so much things I want to comprehend. |
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2 | Aren't we in the age of GRACE? | Rom 8:28 | Pastor Glenn | 141195 | ||
Hello ngkh, "For e.g. the following was my experience. Before I came to the Lord, at times when I was presented the bill after a meal, I noticed that the restaurant had left some items out. Did I call the waiter to inform him of the error. I am ashamed to admit that I quickly paid the bill and thought how lucky I was. However, same scenarios happened again now after being a christian. With no hesitation, I have always informed the waiter of the error and paid what ever is due. Was I afraid of the law? I don't think so. The law was never in my mind. I believe the holy spirit in me told me to do what is right." Excellent ngkh, you did not have to obey specific laws. The general law of love (from God) made you do the right thing. "By living in the age of grace, I believe it means that the holy spirit is in us now when we believe and by Jesus blood, even when I have sinned in the past, I've got a clean slate the moment I said my sinners prayer and by growing in Him, the holy spirit will dwell in me that I no longer have to think about the law for as Paul had said the law shall have no dominion over me." That is right. "Question is, do I truly believe that the holy sprit is in me? I believe it does. But then again, why am I at times questioned God when I believe that the spirit is in me? If I questioned God which means my faith level is only at this height, does it mean that the spirit I have is only in my head? I don't know. Perhaps Pastor Glen will be kind to help me out on this." Actually, I just read an excellent post by CDBJ that addresses this directly. Please type the numbers 141191 into your "Quick Search" box of your display window and click on the "Search" button to see his post. "As per my church's theme for this year. "Grow yourselves to grow others". I wondered on how on earth do I grow. After 18 months, I still have yet to read the bible from cover to cover and there are so much things I want to comprehend. " Sounds like a very good church. After only 18 months, you are growing just fine. Your brother in Christ, Pastor Glenn |
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3 | Aren't we in the age of GRACE? | Rom 8:28 | ngkh | 141289 | ||
Thank you for the lead, Pastor Glenn. However, I'm not sure that I understand Romans 7:25 25Thanks be to God–through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. Does it mean that its alright to question and eventhough I would like to be in Gods laws its ok to be sinful because I'm a natural sinner? which is contradictory to Romans 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. If the Spirit is in me, I should not have this sinful nature but if I am going to sin (which everyone is expected to) then the spirit is not in us. Do you follow what I am trying to say? We can be or at least I think I am in both situation but the Roman 8:9 clearly stated otherwise. Would you classify questioning and doubting God a sin? |
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4 | Aren't we in the age of GRACE? | Rom 8:28 | Morant61 | 141308 | ||
Greetings Ngkh! There are certainly many different views concerning the 'man' described in Rom. 7. However, allow me to share my view of this passage. I believe that Paul is describing himself in Rom. 7:25 as a Jew trying to obey the Law of God, not as a Christian. There are several reasons why I take this approach. First of all, Paul makes it clear in Rom. 6 that Christians are NOT slaves to a sin nature. He says in Rom. 6:6 that we are no longer slaves to sin and that the old man has been crucified. He says in Rom. 6:14 that sin shall not be our master. He says in Rom. 6:18 that we have been set free from sin! Is the person in Rom. 7 free from sin? No! He is described as a slave to sin, which Rom. 6 clearly says believers are not. Further, Rom. 8 continues the thought of Rom. 7 and sets up a clear contrast between the person described in Rom. 7 and Rom. 8. Now, there is no condemnation (8:1)! In Rom. 8:2, Paul is set free from the law of sin and death, while in Rom. 7:25 he is still it's slave. What is the difference between the two men? The man in Rom. 7 is trying to be justified by the Law, which Rom. 8:3 says can't be done. However, the man in Rom. 8 has been justified by Christ's sacrifice. The man in Rom. 7 wants to obey the Law of God, but can't, while the man in Rom. 8 is controlled by the Spirit and does not live according to the sinful nature. So, I would argue that Rom. 7 describes Paul's fruitless attempts to please God by obeying the Law, while Rom. 8 describes a man who is no longer a slave to sin. I hope this helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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