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1 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | meta | 210273 | ||
Hi CDBJ, I know I am hashing up old issues here . You may have even changed the way you think by now. I believe that I have asked your forgiveness for my very emotional and rude response when I first entered the forum and replied to this post. It was then quite by accident because I did not know my way around and did not realise the the original post was 7 years old. I would like to add something new to the debate. Ephesians 3:16 to 19 seems to indicate that it is necessary for Christ to DWELL IN OUR HEARTS in order for us to comprehend His Love. Eph 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man,Eph 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, Eph 3:18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, Eph 3:19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. Please note, I am not challenging you. I am thankfull for you and the others that put me in my place (a place of repentance) before. I am only interested in cooperatively seeking the truth with you. Thankyou for your forbearing spirit, I Know I will not have to clarify this again. So if we are not to ask Him to come into our hearts then how does He get there? Also. You made some really good points in this post and I know that your concern is that people know that they have come to Christ. It is however a sweeping statement to say "The only thing that can help a person when going forward in any service is one on one with God's word being opened up by someone who knows Scripture; a good example is in Acts. Acts 8:26-35 and then you go on to describe the situation with Philip. My problem here is with the phrase "the only thing" Is it necessary to broadly generalise and invalidate something in order to validate the truth. Jesus said Matt 7:18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. The scriptures also say Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. What I am getting at here is this. You have a desire for truth and for people to really know and honour Jesus Christ and I agree with your intention . My second question is this. Can people come to a true knowledge of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit working in ways that you do not understand or agree with? |
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2 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | CDBJ | 210298 | ||
Greetings Meta, I have no doubt that you were saved when you asked Jesus to come into your heart. The not so obvious situation lies in the fact that what you suggested doesn’t describe “how” you were saved but “when” you were saved. The ONLY means of salvation is by grace through faith, Ephes. 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. Jesus doesn’t come into ones heart just because they quote some magical phrase as it were, but because they believe and trust in who He is and what He has done for them. The truth be known, you were probable saved minutes before you even opened your mouth because mentally you were trusting in Christ and believed in Him or you wouldn’t have been asking Him to do something for you in the first place. I know what the verse in Romans says about with the mouth confession is made etc. but relying on that verse alone would suggest that a mute couldn’t be saved and we both know better. You quoted the following verse. Ephes. 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, The following verse plainly states that Christ dwells in our hearts by asking him in there right? I jest but I think you see the point? 2 Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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3 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | meta | 210308 | ||
Thanks CDBJ, I really appreciate everything you said. and there is no but or however. Your words are refreshing and life giving. You have a great day too Meta |
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4 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | justme | 210336 | ||
Meta: Just as a side note, not to confuse the issue, but there is a much better wordor meaning to ask Christ to be our Lord. That word is "surrender". We surrender to Christ our will and We accept His lordship over us. I find to ask Christ into your heart misses the true meaning that Jesus Christ askes us to surrended our will and make Hin totally Lord. Perhaps this makes it more understandable? justme |
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5 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 210337 | ||
Greetings Brother! You bring up a great point!!! I fear we all have been touched by some of the terminology spouted in Christian circles over time which does indeed tend to change not only meaning but also possibly understanding. I find it an area of concern in that we need to gently and lovingly explain (which I think you did a fine job of by the way!). But I have seen how this can go to the extreme in the other direction as well as some will so misunderstand another they will apply their own meaning to what someone else says. Jesus is indeed Lord and it is a blessing from God Himself that we come to that understanding! Understanding and acknowledging that seems to me to make the surrender oh so sweet! God bless, Steve |
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6 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | justme | 210344 | ||
Steve: English or whatever language we use to communicate with, is often not fully understood by the person or persons we areattempting to make understand our thoughts. It amazes me how the Holy Spirit is able to reach out to each of us and we are able to completely understand what is being said to us. Only Jesus has made His will so easy to understand that even a child can come to a saving relationship with Him. Blessings Steve. justme |
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