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1 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79354 | ||
Searcher 2 Thess 1:8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Heb 5:9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. ... Sniper |
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2 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 79367 | ||
Sniper ... None of these verses say we must obey to be saved 2 The 1:8 - who do not know God and to those who do not obey John 3:36 - contrasts (key word "but") he who believes in the Son with he who does not obey the Son Heb 5:9 - is about Jesus Christ (4:8-5:10) John 14:23 - love is the evidence of faith, like works (Jas 2:14-26). Searcher |
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3 | No obedience necessary? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79418 | ||
Searcher, I honestly don't even think your post deserves a response. You can't be serious, but I am going to pose this question to the forum. In fact, since once again a valuable discussion (which may have been in danger of convincing some) has been removed from the main page, I feel as though I am safe in telling you that you are being dishonest with your interpretation. To pick just one of the verses I quoted, does 2 Thess 1:8 (dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.) mean that we dont have to obey to be saved? In looking back to verse 7, what does it mean to have Jesus revealed in flaming fire dealing out retribution to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus? I hope you really are searching. Sniper |
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4 | No obedience necessary? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 79425 | ||
Scripture ... 2 The 1:8 context (vv 5-10) ... sniper, Maybe even expand the context to verses 3-12. Who is verse 8 talking about? Believers - no. Verse 5 ... plain indication of God's righteous judgment Verse 6 ... God to repay with affliction those who afflict ... I hope they are not believers ... you ... they are Verse 7 ... to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us ... believers ... Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire ... it is about His coming Verse 8 ... dealing out retribution to those who do not know God ... to those who afflict, based on the context ... and aren't believers Verse 9 ... these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, ... aren't believers Verse 10 ... when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed--for our testimony to you was believed. ... back to believers Sniper ... does the context make sense that verse 8 is talking about the unbelievers who are afflicting the saints? Searcher |
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