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1 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 79308 | ||
Greetings, The UPPERCASE letters in the following represent the strained attempts to get around water baptism. Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 2:41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 8:36 As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch *said, "Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?" [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE, oops, er, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE GOSPEL BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY PHILIP PREACHED BAPTISM. THE EUNUCH MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT BAPTISM AT SOME OTHER TIME] Acts 8:38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch, and he baptized him. [SAME AS LAST ANSWER] Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized; [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 22:16 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.' [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Gal 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Col 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] 1 Pet 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] God bless. Disciplerami |
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2 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | Morant61 | 79313 | ||
Greetings Disciplerami! So, what is the question? Personally, I would say that all of these verses refer to water baptism except for Gal. 3:27. It would be quite striking if Paul would list some other 'work' that one must do to be saved in a book where he is arguing against the need of another 'work' to be saved! ;-) What I would question is your interpretation of these verses to mean that one must be baptized to be saved. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79322 | ||
Tim, I wonder why you insist on misunderstanding. I hope that you don't do it on purpose. No one has ever suggested that the saving power is in the work. We all agree on where the saving power is. However, God does require obedience to his word, commands, gospel. This appears to be where the disagreement really is. God bless |
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4 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 79331 | ||
Sniper ... Are you saying "obedience to His word, commands, gospel" required to be saved or keep ones salvation? If so, what do we need to obey, for each? Searcher | ||||||
5 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79354 | ||
Searcher 2 Thess 1:8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Heb 5:9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. ... Sniper |
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6 | Could this be right? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 79367 | ||
Sniper ... None of these verses say we must obey to be saved 2 The 1:8 - who do not know God and to those who do not obey John 3:36 - contrasts (key word "but") he who believes in the Son with he who does not obey the Son Heb 5:9 - is about Jesus Christ (4:8-5:10) John 14:23 - love is the evidence of faith, like works (Jas 2:14-26). Searcher |
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7 | No obedience necessary? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79418 | ||
Searcher, I honestly don't even think your post deserves a response. You can't be serious, but I am going to pose this question to the forum. In fact, since once again a valuable discussion (which may have been in danger of convincing some) has been removed from the main page, I feel as though I am safe in telling you that you are being dishonest with your interpretation. To pick just one of the verses I quoted, does 2 Thess 1:8 (dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.) mean that we dont have to obey to be saved? In looking back to verse 7, what does it mean to have Jesus revealed in flaming fire dealing out retribution to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus? I hope you really are searching. Sniper |
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8 | No obedience necessary? | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 79425 | ||
Scripture ... 2 The 1:8 context (vv 5-10) ... sniper, Maybe even expand the context to verses 3-12. Who is verse 8 talking about? Believers - no. Verse 5 ... plain indication of God's righteous judgment Verse 6 ... God to repay with affliction those who afflict ... I hope they are not believers ... you ... they are Verse 7 ... to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us ... believers ... Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire ... it is about His coming Verse 8 ... dealing out retribution to those who do not know God ... to those who afflict, based on the context ... and aren't believers Verse 9 ... these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, ... aren't believers Verse 10 ... when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed--for our testimony to you was believed. ... back to believers Sniper ... does the context make sense that verse 8 is talking about the unbelievers who are afflicting the saints? Searcher |
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