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1 | Jesus knew.......... | John 13:11 | myah | 41749 | ||
I have a question and I'm not quite sure if its appropriate to ask. I was watching the History channel last night and they had a special on Judas Iscariot. I've always had a question about the betrayal. In John 13, Jesus knew that Judas was going to betray him. Judas did exactly what Jesus said one of his disciples was going to do. If Judas was born for that purpose to betray Jesus so he could die for us, does that mean that Judas went to heaven or hell because he fulfilled what had to be done for our salvation? Or am I thinking too hard about this situation? | ||||||
2 | Jesus knew.......... | John 13:11 | Love Fountain | 41770 | ||
Dear myah, I too watched the History channel show lastnight on Judas. I don't think there is such a thing as an inappropriate question when you are searching for truth and understanding in God's word but I do know that Judas is a hot topic which bothers many if they have to think about Judas not being in hell. The plain basic fact is that Scripture does not plainly and clearly state that Judas went to hell know matter how many people want him there it is only speculation. Speculation I don't personally agree with. You state,"Judas did exactly what Jesus said one of his disciples was going to do." To this I agree and also that Jesus even told Judas when it was time for him to deliver Him up and sent Judas(John13:27) to fulfill the prophecy of the OT. The Greek word for betray in John 13:11 is paradidomi meaning to surrender, i.e. yield up, intrust, transmit. So by definition we can say Judas yielded up or intrusted Jesus to the High Priest. Why would Judas do this knowing that the High Priest was seeking the life of Jesus? I believe Judas delivered up Jesus because he was deceived. I believe Judas believed that Jesus was indeed the Messiah and that if he could get Jesus and the High Priest together that Jesus would take His rightful place. Judas also knew that it was the time of the Passover and that there are to be no trials during the time of the Passover and I believe Judas thought Jesus would be ok. The reality of the matter is that the High Priest and the others with him did indeed have a trial, which by the way is punishable by death if done during Passover, however the High Priest broke the law and even had Jesus sentenced to die by crucifixion. Upon sentencing of Jesus, I believe Judas was outraged and this is when he went to the High Priest and told him they have shed innocent blood and Judas repented and gave back the pieces of silver. Then the story goes, that Judas went and hanged himself. Usually when someone is hung they are hung by the neck. When someone is hung by the neck they usually fall feet first, thus suffocating or breaking the neck. But then you have Judas. The text says he fell headlong(head first) and that his guts burst out. I keep going over in my head how someone can fall headfirst when they hang themself and I just don't see how that could happen. They say the rope or knot in the rope slipped. Was the rope around his neck or his feet? Then we hear he hit a rock while falling and that is how his guts burst. I don't think so because it is not written that way but many accept this teaching? Think about this, Judas, the only disciple that stuck by Jesus through the trial, eventhough he delivered Him up, knew the law. Judas(the only disciple from the tribe of Judah) knew that it was unlawful for the trial and upon the sentencing of Jesus told the High Priest that it was unlawful and punishable by death and that all those who were a part of the trial were guilty of breaking their own laws they hold so dear. What do you think happened next? The High Priest and the others with him were scared Jesus was going to take away their standing and place in the temple and the temple too and they premeditated murder on Jesus what do you think happened to Judas when he told them he would expose what they had done on the Passover? Search the Scriptures, it is there. I onced heard the apparent suicide of Judas likened to the guy who commited suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head six times and I agree, smells fishy to me. Judas is made out to be the bad guy yet why is he the only disciple that never forsake or separated himself from Jesus publicly. There are many truths that have been corrupted by the teaching of man and it is our job to read the Bible for ourselves so we know how to stand on our own when the evil one comes knocking and offering false blessing. Remember Jesus in all the temptations always started with "it is written" and quoted the law written in the book of Deuteronomy. By saying what I have said here, will make me a very unpopular person, but in the name of Jesus and the love of the truth this is what I believe with my whole heart and to accept that Judas is in hell without Scripture clearly and plainly saying so makes me ask why do those who say Judas went to hell need him there? Bless you, Love Fountain 2 Sam 22:26-29 26 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful, and with the upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright. 27 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself unsavoury. 28 And the afflicted people thou wilt save: but thine eyes are upon the haughty, that thou mayest bring them down. 29 For thou art my lamp, O LORD: and the LORD will lighten my darkness. |
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3 | Jesus knew.......... | John 13:11 | Morant61 | 41785 | ||
Greetings Love Fountain! You are 100 percent correct that Scripture never clearly tells us where Judas will spend eternity! So, no one can say with certainty. But, it is fun to discuss. I can understand your position that Judas may have went to Heaven, though I do think it a bit much to make him out to be the "good guy" of the story! :-) The biggest indicator of Judas' heart to me is his defiant act of throwing the money into the 'naos' or Holy of Holies. To me, this indicates that his heart was not right with God. But, who knows! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Jesus knew.......... | John 13:11 | Love Fountain | 42295 | ||
Dear Tim, Thank you for responding. I truly love, with all my heart, talking to those who believe and study the Bible. The depth of understanding we each gather, I believe is determined by the Holy Spirit that speaks not of Itself but that to which is spoken. I don't recall ever stating Judas to be in heaven, only that Scripture does not state that he is in hell as many would have otherwise. I also do not find fun in discussing the judgement of the eternal fate of ones soul when that belongs to the one who made us and none other. Remember judge not that you be not judged, for with what you judge it will be judged to you. Do believers honestly think this doesn't apply to them? Do they not see the vanity of their salvation upon condemnation of any soul, whether good or bad? You state,"The biggest indicator of Judas' heart to me is his defiant act of throwing the money into the 'naos' or Holy of Holies. To me, this indicates that his heart was not right with God. But, who knows!" Remember that God does not dwell in temples made by mans hands? Didn't Jesus tell the pharisees and those with them that their father was not Abraham? That they were of their father the devil. Since their father was the devil how can there be a Holy of Holies to which they control? I would contend that Judas learned who those were in sheeps clothing who were indeed of the synagogue of satan as mentioned in Revelations 2 and 3, in regards to the churchess of Philadelphia and Smyrna, the members of those churches know those that say they are jews and are not but are the synagogue of satan. The fact is Judas repented and gave back the money which clearly shows a change of heart. Jesus taught you cannot serve two masters and must choose one. Did not Judas give back the one and choose the other? I believe he did and yet man still has the guts to say that Judas' repentance wasn't sincere? Who knows the heart of man? Jesus said let Him without sin cast the first stone. Bless you, Love Fountain Luke 15:3-10 3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, 4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance. 8 Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it? 9 And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost. 10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. KJV |
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5 | Jesus knew.......... | John 13:11 | Reformer Joe | 42309 | ||
You wrote: "The fact is Judas repented and gave back the money which clearly shows a change of heart. Jesus taught you cannot serve two masters and must choose one. Did not Judas give back the one and choose the other? I believe he did and yet man still has the guts to say that Judas' repentance wasn't sincere? Who knows the heart of man?" Well, no one knows the heart of man but God, but I must point out that the word "repentance" is never used in conjunction with what Judas did. What we see is that Judas is sorry for what he did, but the apostle Paul makes it very clear that there are two kinds of sorrow when he writes to the Corinthians: "For though I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it--for I see that that letter caused you sorrow, though only for a while--I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance; for you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, so that you might not suffer loss in anything through us. For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death. For behold what earnestness this very thing, this godly sorrow, has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing, what zeal, what avenging of wrong! In everything you demonstrated yourselves to be innocent in the matter." --2 Corinthians 7:8-11 Note that he contrasts a "godly" sorrow, which leads to a repentance without regret, and a "worldly" sorrow, which leads to death. Repentance is not merely sorrow for one's sins. True repentance bears fruit which glorifies God. So let's look at Judas. Do we see a repentance without regret? Do we see the results of a godly repentance in Judas' life? We do in Peter's godly sorrow after his denial of Christ, but how does Judas end up? Death. Something to think about. There are undoubtedly many souls who will be suffering the eternal, just wrath of God, very "sorry" about the decisions they had made in this life. Repentance is not granted to them, however. Sorrow and repentance need to be distinguished biblically. --Joe! |
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6 | Do you forgive Judas? | John 13:11 | Love Fountain | 42672 | ||
Dear Joe, Thanks for your response. Do you forgive Judas for delivering up Jesus? Bless you, Love Fountain |
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7 | Do you forgive Judas? | John 13:11 | Mommapbs | 42740 | ||
Greetings Love Fountain! You asked, "Do you forgive Judas for delivering up Jesus?" Without Judas delivering up Jesus, would there have been any forgiveness for us? Perhaps we should be focused on thanking God for providing Judas as His instrument! Mommapbs PS: When I can't have an answer to the "whys," I focus on WHO - for I always have Him! Remember:"The secret things of God belong to God" (!) Dt 29:29 |
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