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1 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | New Creature | 75905 | ||
Their is one group that believes in "once saved, always saved" Their is another group that believes, that salvation can be forfeited I am in this second group However both groups find Bible verses to support their belief. We need to look at the entirety of God's word, not pick and choose which verses we like. Each person should personally search God's word and draw from Scripture what is actually true as the Holy Spirit guides and teaches the individual. After having personally studied this topic in depth my sentiments are as follows the "once saved, always saved" teaching is built upon partial truths presented as the whole truth. Grace Peace and Love New Creature |
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2 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Robert Nicholson | 75908 | ||
New Creature: Partial truth? What part of John 5:24 is partial truth? "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."(John 5:24) This is a promise given by the Lord Jesus Christ himself, how can we see such words as partial truth? Robert |
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3 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | New Creature | 75976 | ||
Robert We cannot take only one verse of God's word and based our entire theology upon a single verse. "he that believeth" in the verse you posted denotes a continious belief, not a belief in a moment of time. It could better be read he that continues to believe in me has (present possession) eternal life. God Bless New Creature |
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4 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Robert Nicholson | 76024 | ||
New Creature: I am not making this post to stir up contention. Your name "New Creature" is based on (2 Cor.5:17)"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." A new creature in Christ means that by his Spirit he has worked within our heart and given us eternal life. Through this life his love is shed abround in our hearts and our desires are to please him. We are no longer bond servants to sin, but are now bond servants to righteousness or to Christ. It is sad indeed, if a person who has been given eternal life and is a new creature in Christ, can somehow revert back to his/her old sinful self and lose eternal life. Is our faith misplaced? Can God by his Spirit not keep us for himself forever? I agree with you that "he that believeth" is present and continuous. Is this not what our faith is all about? We look back to a time when as a lost guilty sinner we were brought to Christ and by his Spirit he was reavealed to us as the one who died for our sins. Through faith we rested upon Christ and his work for us upon the cross and were justified (cleared of all guilt) Our Savior is a living Savior and because he lives we live, he dwells within our heart and guides us in our daily lives. It is by faith that we trust him for now and it is by faith that we have a sure hope for our future salvation when Christ returns. The 3 stages of the Christian experience are pointed out by Paul in his writing to the Thessalonians " How you turned to God from idols" (they were saved) "to serve the living and true God"(daily life in Christ) "And to wait for his Son from heaven whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus which delivered us from the wrath to come"(the Christians sure hope) (1 Thess. 19-10) Our faith continues to grow as we learn daily to live by faith. Faith is our inner conviction in God that we are forgiven, that he will keep us and that he is faithful even when we are unfaithful; "If we believe not( are unfaithful), yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself" (2 Tim 2:13) Paul writes "In whom also you trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise. Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory" Eph. 1: 13-14 We are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise until the day Christ returns to claim those who are his at his coming. Our acceptance is not based on our faithfulness since "...he hath made us accepted in the beloved" Eph. 1:6 "Ye are bought with a price..." (1 Cor. 7:23) that price was the precious blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. We who are saved belong to Christ. When we put our faith in him we were forgiven or justified. All our sins were forgiven and forgotten: "Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifies (declares righteous) Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ who died, yea rather, that is risen again, who even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us" (Romans 8: 33-34) The moment we are saved we are placed in God's family as sons or children. As such it is our responsiblity to live in a way which is pleasing to our heavenly Father, for us "to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and to show him to the world around us. "God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world."(Gal. 6:14) After 48 years in Christ, if I were to die, I could only plead the precious blood of Christ. I am depending upon him for eternity. Peace in his name. Robert |
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