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1 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93361 | ||
Hey Darcy, Isaiah is a prophet and prophets tend to speak very poetically. The lamb laying down, and all that stuff is symbolic. It was very much an error of the Pharisees to believe in a PHYSICAL delieverance, all the while their souls are what needed delievering. This unfortunately is the exact same error of the Church. We love our flesh, that's for sure. Also, the verse showing the spirit of God being poured out is symbolic as well, or do we expect to literally see a Spirit being poured out? You can't jump from symbolic to literal in the same verse, that's not good exegsis. To cut to the chase here, you probably think that by the time we reach the later parts of Revelation, all is well. New Jerusalem comes down, and there's a Tree that can heal the nations, and a literal stream of water of life and all that. Peace on earth, right? Not really. See even after New Jerusalem comes to earth, something's not quite right. Something remains outside the city. See Revelation 22:15. ...As I think amillennial or postmennial views harms the Church in a big way. First it takes aweay the promice of Jesus' second coming, thus not giving us any hope on this earth. thus no need for us to be here.... Though I'm neither of those views, neither of those views deny Christ's second coming. ...I am still waiting on that blessed hope... And it came, just as promised. But I don't want to be a stumbling block for you, eschatology isn't crucial to salvation, only grace and faith are, so I don't want to scare you away from that. Take care, SUEDE |
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2 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Hank | 93395 | ||
Dear Suede -- As I review your post, I am inclined to concur that of a certainty the Bible -- a vast collection of books that contain every form of writing from plain narrative to majestic poetry -- uses symbolism, hyperbole, idiom, simile, and metaphor to convey God's eternal revelation of truth. But at the same time, extreme care should be taken and no rushes to judgment made in exegeting Scripture. As so often happens in post-modern theology, reversion to the cry of "symbolism," the popular darling of liberal theologians, is their way of explaining away vital biblical teaching of things such as creationism and the atonement and bodily resurrection of our Lord. It's a liberal scapegoat that doesn't wash with folks who take God at His word. Resorting to the explanation of "symbolism" in an effort to lend credence to their liberal views really doesn't camouflage their real intent, which is an effort to emasculate and distort God's word. It rather reminds me of a story my son, who works in computers, told me some time ago. A farmer went to his computer one spring day and planted a virtual (symbolic) crop. He virtually (symbolically) cultivated it and fertilized it. In the fall of the year he went back to his computer and reaped his virtual (symbolic) crop. He and his family ate this virtual (symbolic) food and before long they all died of starvation. But their death was not virtual. It was not symbolic. It was literal. Aesop always appended a moral to his fables, and so shall I to mine: Be extremely careful about what God says. He who views it all symbolically may die a literal spiritual death. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93485 | ||
Hi Hank, Thanks for writing, and note I am very careful in study. I'm a skeptic's skeptic. I grew up in Dispensationalism, very much where you are at. However, I often hit "difficulties" with it. The unBiblical gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th week is just one. Jesus saying he'd be back in 40 years is another one. The sad thing is, NONE of these are "difficulties"; we make them difficult because we have incorrect theology. You won't find a more conservative theologian then me, I'm no liberal, and being a Preterist is FAR from being liberal. Whether we like it or not, the Bible is full of symbolism. Sorry, it just is. I know as humans we are so in love with our flesh, and that's ultimately tragic to doctrine. I understand Preterism is hard, but again, too bad. Doctrine MUST match up the Bible, otherwise it's wrong. When Adam and Eve died in the Garden of Eden, did they die physically?? No, they didn't. It was a spiritual death, and THAT is what God was going to save mankind from. That is what Jesus conquered. Paul states in Romans that man is set to die and then be Judged. We will all physically die, believer and non believer alike. But, not all of us will spiritually die, believers do have eternal life. There are no verses to indicate salvation by the flesh, or of the flesh. Your soul and spirit is what lives on, thanks to Jesus. The problem is PreMill emasculate's the church. One it's bad exegis, and two it tells people not to do anything cause Jesus is come back and make it all better. Jesus did come back, and is reigning forever. We will win, because he already has won. Or is there something left for him to do? Preterism is weird, at first. Again, I was not raised a Preterist, but if you would like to discuss it, I would love to do that with you. Take care, SUEDE |
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4 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Hank | 93512 | ||
Suede: Thanks for the invitation, but there are two things I don't do. I don't do windows, and I don't debate eschatology :-) --Hank | ||||||
5 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Suede67 | 93514 | ||
Hank, No problem, eschatology can be a very tricky subject, but as it's a non essential for salvation, I can't blame you a bit. Spread the Gospel first and foremost. Take care, SUEDE |
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