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1 | Is Universalism Scriptural | Lev 16:34 | nicko715 | 198768 | ||
Hello CDBJ, Thank you for your response. I spent the majority of my 33 years saying basically what you have just said. However, many of the inconsistencies in that reasoning gnawed at me. For example, you mention the life raft to a drowning man analogy. After refusing "all" possible attempts, the ship must sail on. God doesn't exhaust "all" possible attempts. He blinded Saul/Paul and spoke in an audible voice to him. If He did that to others, would they not follow Him? He is in absolute control of Satan and will even bind him for a thousand years. If He did that right now, how many more would follow Him? How about a child born to a Muslim family. They spend their entire life being taught something contrary to Scripture and get maybe one chance to hear an American tell them of Christ and this is exhausting "all" possible attempts? These are the type of inconsistencies that kept confusing me. Or for another example from your email, you said God "can't possibly" help anyone that doesn't rely "totally" on Jesus Christ for their eternal life...or it would make Him a liar. The first problem is saying "God can't". That is pretty much a contradiction of God. God is all powerful, there is nothing He can't do! Secondly, God makes the rules. He isn't so shortsighted that He made a rule that now He is required to uphold or else become a liar. I mean, He isn't saying "oh man, I really don't want them to burn forever, but now I have to let them because those are the rules I put in place." He isn't that easily fooled. Again, this just doesn't hold up rationally. And finally, if God is truly a God of love (and I think we all agree there), then at the bear minimum why could He not just extinguish those who reject Him? Why does He decide to torture them forever? How can those two ideas be said to coexist logically. These are some of the questions I struggled with. What do you think about the questions I asked myself (and now ask you)? Thank you for your time, Nick |
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2 | Is Universalism Scriptural | Lev 16:34 | Val | 198776 | ||
Nick the best way to understand the living God is to look at what He says in His word. Is there a particular passage you would like to start with? | ||||||
3 | Is Universalism Scriptural | Lev 16:34 | nicko715 | 198806 | ||
Val, Thank you for your response. No, there is not a particular passage with which I would like to start. Obviously I am a Universalist. I do believe Jesus is the Son of God and died for our sins and God raised him up and that He is the only way we are made right with God. I just believe...let's just say differently about the end of it all. At this point, it will obviously just spur on debate, which Doc has kindly (and correctly) pointed out to me is not the point of the forum, so I will not bring up any further verses. If you would like to see why I think the Scriptures teach universalism or would like to share with me why you believe it does not, just email me (in profile). Thank you again. Nick |
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