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1 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Ray | 114102 | ||
Hi Sir Pent, I appreciate the questions and the impetus for further study. You made me get out my "eraser" for as you may know, I am doing my personal study (capitalizing and counting of pronouns) in pencil. We all in a sense are "working out our salvation" as we study and apply the word of God to our lives. 1) I would say that the Holy Spirit comes to the people in the Old Testament in the same way that He does to us. 2) I need a reference verse from you where it says that the Holy Spirit dwells in us. 3) Ephesians 3:14, "For this reason, I bow my knees before the (Father)." Ephesians 3:21, "to (Him) be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever. Amen." Ephesians 3:14-19. We are strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man; so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. Romans 8:11. His (Spirit) indwells us. Colossians 1:27, "...which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. And we proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, that we may present every man complete in (Christ)." Ephesians 4:6, "one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of (Christ's) gift." Ephesians 4:10, "He/ who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, that (He) might fill all things." From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114123 | ||
I need clarification............................................. Hi Ray, You said that you believe the Holy Spirit came the same way to people in the Old Testament as He does to us. I think that Makarios brought up a similar view, that the only difference was just the increased number of people who the Holy Spirit comes to now. If that is the case, then how do you explain the Galations chapter 4 passage that jcsav brought up. It seems to say that the Holy Spirit now comes "into our heart" becuase we are "sons" of God after Christ and no longer "servants" of God like in the Old Testament. That passage seems to indicate a new kind of relationship with God leading to a new kind of filling with the Holy Spirit. There aren't any passages in the Old Testament that say the Holy Spirit comes into someone's heart. What do you think? |
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3 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Hank | 114130 | ||
Sir Pent: "There aren't any passages in the Old Testament that say the Holy Spirit comes into someones heart." ..... Numbers 11:25, "The the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke with him (Moses); and He took of the Spirit who was upon him (again, Moses) and placed Him upon the seventy elders. And when the Spirit rested upon them, they prophesied. But they did not do it again." ....... It is clear that the visitation on the elders by the Holy Spirit was temporary, but it is also clear that He did come upon them. --Hank | ||||||
4 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114133 | ||
Vehement Disagreement.................................... Hi Hank, I'm disappointed by your last post. I made two posts in response to Ray within 1 minute of each other. They were right on top of each other on the webpage, and I have to assume you read them both. In the first one I pointed out no less than 6 passages in the Old Testament that spoke of the Holy Spirit being "in" people there. In fact, I have stated throughout this entire thread that I believe the Holy Spirit was active in the Old Testament. Then you ignore all of that and instead focus on one phrase from my second response to Ray that the Holy Spirit does not come "into the heart" of anyone in the Old Testament. You take that one phrase out of it's context and then make it sound like I don't believe the Holy Spirit came on people in the Old Testament. You characterize me falsely, and in an irresponsible manner. As a forum leader, I expect more of you. |
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5 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Hank | 114139 | ||
Sir Pent: My objective was merely to point out that you made a statement in your Post #114123 that was contrary to biblical fact. That is all. If you view my post as justification to become enraged at me and to engage in an ad hominem attack against me, that is your burden. But it is a lousy defense against posting a statement that fails to comply with Scripture. A simple admission of a mistake would be more becoming it seems to me. I will say no more. It is not my aim to wallow in the muck of name calling and personal animosities on this Forum or anywhere else. I cannot afford the luxury of holding grudges against anyone. May God bless. --Hank | ||||||
6 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Sir Pent | 114159 | ||
Continued Disagreement............................... Hello again Hank, I am disappointed again by your last post. It seems to be wrong on 3 different levels. 1. You said that I made a statement "contrary to biblical fact". That is not true. I said that the Old Testament does not contain any verses that say the Holy Spirit comes "into our heart" (although it is in the New Testament in Gal 4:6). Can you find any Old Testament verse that contains that exact phrase? 2. You said that I personally attacked you, and implied that I held grudges, and called you names. That is not true. My response to your post intended to critique your post not your person. I meant that your post ignored the context of the entire thread of the discussion. I meant that your post characterized me falsely. I have no grudges against you (notice I didn't refer to anything in my response to you except in regards to the most recent post). And the only "name" I called you was a "forum leader", which I meant as a term of respect (which is why I had high expectations). 3. It is also curious to me why you would respond to my post directed towards Ray on the grounds that it was unbiblical (which it wasn't). There have been many posts recently that have truly been unbiblical (denying the orthodox belief in the Trinity, debating the neccessity of baptism, etc.). Yet you have not responded to almost any of them. Why pick on me? |
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7 | Why did God wait to send the Holy Spirit | Joel 2:28 | Hank | 114162 | ||
Sir Pent: I will not keep this childish rhubarb alive by responding to it. --Hank | ||||||