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1 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | Earnest | 85242 | ||
Hello Tim and John, Interesting discussion and points on both sides. QUOTE "But seriously, why is it always the people who refrain from drinking who are accused of going beyond the text, when there aren't any texts which explicitly command or permit drinking either? Implications can be drawn either way, but there are not any explicit commands either way./END QUOTE Tim I agree with that. Neither view should be held as going beyond the text. Personally though, I share John's view that it might be taken to be something of an inference that from the scriptures quoted, some alcoholic drinking was permitted if not encouraged. I would say that is the natural logic of the statements made. However on your following qu. QUOTE Now, you also mentioned communion. Which verse states that an alcoholic beverage was used to symbolize the blood of Christ?/END QUOTE Alcohol was definitely used as an anology to the Holy Spirit. The natural beverage that causes "joy" is alcoholic in nature. The spiritual drink that causes real JOY is the Holy Spirit... so might it not follow that the wine of communion may have been alcoholic and not just grape juice? |
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2 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | Morant61 | 85273 | ||
Greetings Earnest! Thanks for the participation! Someone brought up communion a long time ago, and I was quite surprized when I did some research and discovered that the communion cup is never 'explicitly' called wine. I have freely admited that there is not a single verse which explicitly and plainly says that we should never ever drink alcohol. However, the opposite is also true. So, my question to John was simply why I would be considered as going beyond the text while someone who holds the opposite view (based upon implication) is being true to the text! Well, I have to go to work! See you later! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | Emmaus | 85279 | ||
Tim, It would seem to me that the simple way to answer at least the question about the wine used at the Last Supper is to ask: What did the Jews then and now use in the celebration of the Passover? A hint to the answer: it has not changed. Does a Kosher Passover wine contain alcohol? You have to buy it in a liquor store. Emmaus |
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4 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | Morant61 | 85292 | ||
Greetings Emmaus! Good morning my friend! I actually am aware of what the Jews did and continue to use in their passover celebrations. My point was simply this, Scripture does not explicitly say what the communion cup contained. Those who hold to an abstainence postion are always accused of going beyond what Scripture actually says, yet nowhere does Scripture use the word 'wine' in reference to communion! :-) Yet, even in one was to concede that the communion cup was alcohol, there is a great difference between naturally fermented wine and Jack Daniel's for social reasons! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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