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1 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | Hank | 85263 | ||
John, Tim's church may have voted to keep themselves dry, but how can Southern Baptists keep dry with all that immersion going on? Ain't no way! :-) ..... You ask about the Southern Baptist position on the use of alcohol. It's "don't get caught or they'll punish you by electing you as a deacon!" ...... I'm kidding, of course. I don't know that the SBC has any official position on this, John. I don't personally know any Southern Baptists who drink (unless they are doing it in the closet), but I'm reasonably certain some do. ..... You make two interesting statements back to back: that it is quite possible to drink and remain sober and that the vast majority of drinkers exercise prudence regarding alcohol. As to the first statement, my experiences back in my drinking days didn't bear this out. As to the second statement, my experiences back in my drinking days didn't bear this out either. You know what I wonder, John? I wonder, if the fire were removed from the fire-water, the pepper from the sauce, the sting from the stinger, the gin from the tonic -- in other words, if the alcohol were removed from the beer, wine and booze, how many "social drinkers" would notice it? I think all of them would, don't you. And if it weren't for the "kick" I believe most social drinkers wouldn't bother with "social drinking" or go to the trouble of attending cocktail parties that are usually so boring that they drive a fellow to drink. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Don't understand Jesus's view on alcohol | Prov 20:1 | John Reformed | 85354 | ||
Dear Hank, Your arguements against the cosumption of alcohol are based on 1. personal experience and 2. On what you term as a "kick". Regarding your first point (and I speak from the experience of my own sordid past) "Birds of a feather, flock together. Really Hank, I had no use for those, who after one or two beers, began to look at the clock and decide it was time to get home to the wife! I looked upon men such as these with suspicion and bewilderment. It was'nt until God changed my heart and gave it new desires that I began to understand these folks. They enjoyed their drink or two but did not like the feeling that too much wine results in. A feeling of losing control. Your second point pre-supposes that everyone who drinks does so to experience the kick of losing control. This is not so. There is a distinct difference between a mildly pleasent sensation and getting potted. Should we also forbid christians from long distance races because of the euphoria that runners experience at a certain point during their run? Of course not. The very idea is absurd. Pleasent feelings are not in themselves sinful! Of course any material gift of God may be abused. Food, drink, sex, health, money, in my case good looks (just kidding). You name it and we can mess it up. What else should the church ban because it may lead to sinful abuse? Dancing, make-up, movies, books, junk food, card playing, secular music, etc. etc. etc. What does the Bible say? 1 Cor 6:12 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything Gal 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. When I partake in a glass of wine I do so with a good conscience, knowing that it is a gift of God that I must not abuse. I will not be matered by wine or anything else if in the enjoyment of it I glorify God by my prudent use of His blessing. nough' said, John the "wine bibber" |
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