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1 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 59971 | ||
EdB: :-) If God uses these books to bring people to a genuine soul saving experience then I am pleased. I personally am not drawn to the LEFT BEHIND books. I am not sure scaring fokes into a commitment is ethical, but that's only my opinion. I prefer to read what the Bible actually says, rather than a fictionalized version. I do believe this has been a drawing for some who other wise would never pick up a Bible. I have done very little compared to Tim LeHey in winning souls to Christ and can admire him for his evangelistic out reach. I most asredly don't even come close. LeHey is my brother in Christ. I feel the films by Cloud Ten Productions had some very serious financial ethical problems that were a poor testimony to the world as how to finance Christian movies. That is really my main issue. agape, justme agape. justme |
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2 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 59987 | ||
Dear Justme, You wrote: I am not sure scaring fokes into a commitment is ethical,". I also do not think that folks are saved by either fear or their own commitment, but solely on grace that works through faith. Please, I'm really not being picky but have a serious concern regarding modern evangelical tactics employed in getting people to make a "commitment" to Christ. Pemit me to explain my concern and perhaps you share it as well. I believe that many in the chuch today think they are christians but in reality they are not. They decided to "accept" Christ for a variety of reasons. 1. To keep from going to hell. 2. To have happier lives. 3. To preserve their marriages 4. It's good for the kids. 5. to improve their financial condition 6. To be restored to good health. 7. Just to check it out. ....and probably quite a few other wrong reasons I have yet to think of. Well... whats the big deal? The big deal is that these folks are unrepentant. They were never really presented with the gospel. They are among us but they are not of us. Perhaps this could explain why statistics show just as much divorce in the church as among the pagan community! True regeneration will always be accompanied by repentance and faith. They are the fruit of having recieved a new heart of flesh. Our stony (unrepentant) heart has been removed by God. It is His gracious gift to His chosen people. So whats my point? Just this....You cannot frighten, entice, plead, beg or even pray people into the kingdom. What we must do is return to the plain preaching of the gospel. After all, it is the power of God unto salvation. John |
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3 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 59988 | ||
John: I could not agree with you more. He who has the SON has life. He who has not the SON has not life! But even repentance follows salvation. Salvation, Grace plus nothing is salvation. These other factore come as evidence of salvation. Thank you for responding. agape, justme |
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4 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 59991 | ||
Dear Justme, I believe that regeneration (the replacement of the old stony heart with a new heart of flesh) is totaly the work of the Holy Spirit. I believe that this renewing work of God takes place before we are capable of either repentance or faith. Why do I believe this? 1 Cor 2:14 "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." Were we not natural or carnal men prior to our birth from above? Were we not spiritualy DEAD in trespasses and sins? It had to be by God's grace alone that we are saved. Once we had recieved a heart of flesh and in conjuncture with our new nature we realized our hopeless condition and fled to Christ our Saviour. Repentance abd faith are also gifts from God. We have nothing of which to boast! Rom 8:29,30 "For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." Now I know that many christians believe that the term "foreknew" means that God, knowing the future, knows who will choose Christ and who will not. But this interpretation is in direct opposition to 1 Cor 2:14 cited above. Is it not? John |
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5 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 60018 | ||
John I love you man! Your the only person I know that could steer a discussion on the Left Behind series of books to election of the saints. Will you ever quite? :-) I think you would even make Calvin blush and Jacobus Arminius giggle. EdB |
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6 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 60033 | ||
"John I love you man! Your the only person I know that could steer a discussion on the Left Behind series of books to election of the saints." I am hurt! What am I, chopped liver?? :) --Joe! |
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7 | LEFT BEHIND? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 60054 | ||
Joe Oh man I'm sorry!!! I should have said, "Your the only one I know besides Joe that could steer a discussion on the Left Behind series of books to the election of the saints." Never let it be said Joe is a slacker in this area either. See Joe your not chopped liver. Election of the saints is safe as long as John and Joe are on the job!!!!! Could they be the dynamic duo? “Reformation Man” and his partner boy wonder “Tulip” I won’t go into who is who, if I get away with saying this much and live I’m lucky :-) EdB |
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