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1 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 42091 | ||
"Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." --Psalm 51:5 "But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. --Romans 5:15-19 Here we see the comparison between Adam and Christ. Very emphatically Paul presents the truth that our sinful nature is inherited by ONE trangression, that of Adam. Sin comes to us through Adam's sin; grace comes to us through Christ's sinless life and substitutionary death. If we say that Adam only served as a "bad example" for everyone else, then we also must conclude that Jesus was no more than a "good example" for Christians. the parallel here is unmistakeable. Paul says it very clearly: Adam's sin MADE us sinners. Condemnation of all human beings resulted from ONE transgression. Original sin and total depravity are indeed very biblical concepts. --Joe! |
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2 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 42567 | ||
Hello Joe, I can see there is no need in debating this with you because you have been blinded by the Calvinist viewpoint. But let me say that as adults we are all sinners. Rom. 3:23 The first sin that was ever committed was by Adam and Eve. Eve first then Adam was decieved by satan. But we DO NOT inherit sin in this case "Original sin" from the sin that Adam committed. This is not biblical and the verse that you point out is from a prayer that David offered up to God for Him to forgive David his sins. But because of sin there is death and that is all. Look at this verse, Romans 5 Death in Adam, Life in Christ (1) 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and DEATH THROUGH SIN, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-- Now read this next part carefully, 13(For UNTIL THE LAW sin was in the world, but SIN IS NOT IMPUTED WHERE THERE IS NO LAW. Therefore the need for the Ten Commandments. So the people would know and be able to read and understand for themselves. We are not judged by what Adam and Eve did! You cannot show me a verse that says this. But you might find it interesting that the bible does say that each man is accountable for himself, Ezekiel 18 20 "The person who (1) sins will die. The (2) son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the (3) righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. So by this you can see that you view of "original sin" is in direct contridiction of what the bible teaches. For sin is when we transgress the law of God and not just by being born. 1 John 3 4 Whosoever COMMITTETH sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. If on the other hand had it been like you say then David could not have made this statment about his son that died. 2 Samuel 12 22And he said, "While the child was alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, "Who can tell whether the LORD[1] will be gracious to me, that the child may live?' 23But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I SHALL GO TO HIM, BUT HE SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME." David was stating the fact that his son was in the arms of the Heavenly Father. These scriptures that I have shown would also show that "total depravity" is also not biblical. Anybody that can look into the eyes of their newborn baby and believe that it is "defiled" ,"depraved", covered in sin and utterly without hope unless they are sprinkled with a few drops of water has got some serious issues and needs to seek guidence!! Raven!! |
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3 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 42570 | ||
Hello Raven As one who is not blinded by the Calvinist viewpoint, I can say you are out of line in your reasoning of inherited sin. We ARE judged by what Adam did, and Joe has demonstrated that. Also, it appears you are making accusations of Joe that are unfounded. I suspect you owe him an apology. Steve |
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