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1 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | Elijah | 4302 | ||
God the father is the only true God there is (1 Corinthians 8:6), Jesus being in the image of God and having the authority of God is allowed to be God in only a sense. The Bible explains this very well in the first part of John. In John 1:1 it states, "In the beginning was the Word," okay lets start there, we all agree that the Word is Jesus, so, Jesus was there in the beginning, but the beginning of what? In genesis it states the GOD created the Heavens and the earth, so the beginning is the beginning of the heavens and the earth. But the word also states that Jesus is the Firstborn of ALL creation in Col. 1:15, well if he is the firstborn, firstborn means that Jesus was the First to be created, the only true one to be actually created by God Himself. So thus he can't be God, because we all know that God is not created. Continuing on, "And the Word was with God," Now just a minute, if Jesus is God, then how can He be with himself, the answer is he can't. People who believe in the Trinity believe that God is three in one, each person of the trinity being equal to each other in all aspects, but in John 14:28, Jesus himself says that the Father is greater than He is, so thus by Jesus' own words, he himself makes the trinity out to be a lie. Now in John 17:11 and 22 Jesus prays to God that we may be one as there are one, and in John 10:30 it states that Jesus and God are one, but what does this truly mean, does it mean that we can be part of the trinity, well no of course not, it means that Jesus is not God, and we are not God, but are one with God, one in unity with God, in other words we strive to do the will of God, and that is the same for Jesus, HE strives to do the will of God too, and in doing so Him and us are one with God in that we are all striving for the very same thing. We are all in unity with God. Going on, "And the word was God." Well here's where it has caused all the problem to begin with. It says that "the Word was God", well it says it that way, because like I said in the beginning, Jesus is only GOD in a sense, He is not God, but has ALL the AUTHORITY to ACT as God, just like a father and son here on earth, A son can ACT with all authority of the father because the father has told him and taught him what to do, so in a sense the son is the father, but the father is not the son. Hence this is the way it is with Jesus and the Heavenly Father. Therefore, finally, to answer the question, We've never seen God, flesh or otherwise, but have seen God's only begotten son, who came in the flesh, being the visible image of the invisible God (Col. 1:15) so we have seen God only in a sense of the word, we have seen everything we can of God, nature, the burning bush, his son, each other (we to are created in the image of God), without actually seeing God himself. So as Romans 1:20 says, we have absolutely no excuse for not knowing who the TRUE GOD IS, So I ask you who should one believe, God’s own son, the only true teacher, or the men who came up with the Trinity doctrine | ||||||
2 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | believer57 | 34019 | ||
wow...a cultist among us....Do I sense "Way International"? say it ain't so..Hey cultist, John 1:14? unbelievable..."to be carnal minded is death"....That looks like something straight out of Weirwille's satanic non-sense..go somewhere else...Just a couple for you, since I don't waste time with goats..In the beginning, God, (elohym-PLURAL). Where does it say "sense"? In your cult handbook? I have an ex-friend who is a "wayer", so bring it on.. I need the excercise..That sounds just like some of his satanic non-sense!By the way, Mr. Cultist, why does the ot use elohym and Jehovah to refer to God? HMMM..."Let us make man in our image.." you gonna tell me that that is an "old English" phrase referring to a singular? Already heard it, try again..Don't even get me started on that stuff. I'll type until I have worn out these keys. When I confront my ex-friend with that stuff, he just looks down at the ground. Give it up...He who hath not the Son, hath NOT eternal life..This means ALL of Him, not a "sense". Unbelievable..You guys amaze me, but are great excercise..Like my pastor told me, every now and then, go find a "unitarian" to argue with..Bring it on, I might just save you!!!Oh, I know, Hebrews 1:2 mistranslation, right? Please, try it, and I'll show you that it is perfect! Wanna get me started on False Prophets? Bring it on...I did not mean to get tacky, but I had problems with the Way International before, and am just a bit touchy when I hear people talking about my blessed Lord and Saviour like that..Question. How can God send something that did not already exist?. Oh, last one, I promise, "I WILL send the Comforter..." Sound like Joel 2:28? I am the First and the Last! Homework assignment, (its not in your cult handbook), who said that? (HInt: Isaiah 44:6, couldn't resist).You false prophets are great! I'll be up all night reading about my ETERNAL Lord and Saviour, the mighty Counselor, the almighty God, Jesus Christ! And what was Thomas thinking when, after touching His scars,said, "My Lord and MY GOD!!!", (emphasis mine, reserved for goats). Want more? Let me know...I look forward to it... Like Jimmy Durante once said, I gotta million of 'em!" God Bless... | ||||||
3 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | TKO | 49368 | ||
you've got a real problem... | ||||||
4 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 49377 | ||
So you aren't a Trinitarian, either? I thought you were "done with me," in any case. --Joe! |
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5 | TRINITY | Bible general Archive 1 | TKO | 49401 | ||
Did I post this note on your post??? I thought it was beleive57. And you assume to know something that was NOT stated again, I thought after all we've been through you would have stopped misquoting me, maybe the forum team should watch more people who slander and insinuate others, instead of a heated discussion! I'm seaking the truth and learn from everyone, including Calvin, and I'm not afreid of considering others opinion like beleiver57 is. I can argue both sides of any topic you want to bring up. And I guess we'll never be done with each other. |
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