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1 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | DocTrinsograce | 228648 | ||
Fine, Ed... having vision problems so I will have to drop of for a bit. You said you were interested in what other people thought based on their understanding of Scripture: A classic is "The Mortification of Sin" by John Owen. But if it is dead peoples' thoughts you object to, I have another suggestion. (It is also a lot easier read.) Jerry Bridges did a wonderful little book called "The Pursuit of Holiness." You asked, "So what is different between how we live today and how Abraham who trusted in the Messiah for his salvation lived?" My dear Pentecostal friend, please refer to John 14:16-18. |
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2 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | jlhetrick | 228754 | ||
Good Questions Ed. Doc - at a very early age (8 or 9 yrs old) I believed and repented and in the years adding up to my now 46 years I have always understood the difference between a forgiven sinner and a damned one. I guess someone did a fine job of explaining the Scriptures to me, even when I was a child, and the Holy Spirit obviously gave me the truth regarding my sin and the finished, saving work of Christ. I'm thankful that I don't have to be forgiven over and over again as I continue to be in this not yet glorified body. I was a young adult the first time I ever heard the notion of sinless perfection. Even though this topic was being "preached" to me by a older (in age and in the amount of time he had confessed Christ) I easily dismissed it as having no Scriptural support (to the degree and then understood and especially when considered in the context of Scripture as a whole and not single words or verses). I do admit that I was distracted by it for some time, unfortunately, and in all I studied I never could figure from Scripture what some seemed to take from it - "sinless perfection". Probably the most important FACT that I ever weighed against such a notion was the fact that we have absolutely no example in Scripture (and I have not a single one personally and know of no one who does) of a man (other than Christ) who lived sinless before or after conversion. Not one. Your points were very well made here to include the one about accessing the centuries of study by those who have gone before. It is troubling to see that this is even a topic of discussion when the Scripture is so definite. I realize that even the words of Paul (Romans chapter 7) have been removed from even their immediate context in order to support the argument for sinless perfection. I don't get it. As you know and continuously affirm, we should never ignore what doesn't fit our position and, obviously, should never add to what Scripture already says. |
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