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1 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | Morant61 | 228691 | ||
Part III Gal 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; (20) idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions (21) and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. Yet, Christians are told: Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. What boggles my mind is that many commentaries (not all), argue that the sin nature is still alive even though it has been crucified. Yet, Paul makes it abundantly clear what he means. Consider the following: Col 2:11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, Vincent says of this verse: "The fleshly circumcision removed only a portion of the body. In spiritual circumcision, through Christ, the whole corrupt, carnal nature is put away like a garment which is taken off and laid aside." So, Scripture is clear that the power of the sinful nature has been destroyed, but apparently we can empower it again by choosing to make our selves slaves to it. Thus, Scripture says: Rom 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Rom 13:14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 1Pe 1:14-15 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. (15) But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; My conclusion can only be that it is possible to sin or not to sin as a Christian. We can choose to live according to the Spirit or according to the flesh. But, we are commanded to live according to the Spirit. I hope these posts answer your question my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228696 | ||
1 John tells us there is lust of the flesh, lust of the eye and pride of life. We see Satan using these three in the garden to tempt Eve. Genesis 3:6 (NKJV) 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. She didn't have a sin nature until after she ate and yet she moved in the big three. Now when a person is saved they still retain the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and pride of life. They may be able to contain those but they are still present in our earthly bodies. It isn't until we get our incorruptable bodies that the big three is no longer present. Can we live in sinless perfection, I'm not sure but I don't think so because. I'm sure that each step we take that takes us closer to the holiness of God the more we are able to see our imperfections and things we need to deal with in our lives. I can understand that sinless perfection should be the goal of every Christian but since our bodies still have the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life within it we are going to stumble. Perhaps not in ways we now think of as sin but in ways we never considered before because we were so busy dealing with the things we knew to be sin. I think all too often in church we cite Paul and I don't think even Peter fully understood Paul at times. At least not without a lot of thought and prayer. What is see in Paul and also in Peter is they were in constant struggle to walk in Jesus' footsteps and both felt they missed stepped at times. |
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