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1 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228669 | ||
On the discussion of the possibility of living in sinless perfection in this world I think everyone has made valid points. Paul's discussion on sin was not given to us as an excuse to continue in sin. But rather to tell us his realization that the more closely he approached a Christ like walk on this earth the more he discovered things within him that needed to be dealt with. He has long pasted the normal things we think of as sin and was now finding sins within him that he wasn't even aware of or had motive for. Nonetheless they were things that he needed to deal with and through Christ's glory and grace he would overcome. In other words the sanctification process is never fully completed in this life and it isn't until we get our incorruptible bodies that we will truly be able to walk in sinless perfection. Is that a fair assessment of this discussion? If not where do I stray? |
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2 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | Morant61 | 228685 | ||
Greetings EdB! If you check the post I just made to Biblicalman, I ask a simple question. Does Rom. 7:14-25 simply describe someone who occasionally sins or someone who always sins? This has always been my problem with this particular approach to Rom. 7:14-25, in that in seems to ignore what the text actually says. Paul says in that passage that: - The good he wants to do, he does not do. - The evil that he does not want to do, he does do. These are absolute statements. He doesn't say that sometimes I do the evil that I don't want to do. These statements, in my mind, don't make sense in relation to Rom. 6, Rom. 8, and Gal. 5. But, they do make perfect sense in Paul is describing himself as he was, a Pharisee, who wanted to obey God's Law but could not because of his sinful nature. Just something to think about my friend! Keep up the excellent studies! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228686 | ||
Tim I can see how you got to where you are on Romans 7 and you make a strong argument. However I'm still a bit confused. In light of all the discussion do you view sinless perfection as goal we should strive for or real possibility in this life? |
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4 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | Morant61 | 228688 | ||
Greetings Edb! I would answer 'both' in one sense. It is a goal that we strive for in that we will not be perfect until we are glorified, but it is a possibility in this life in the sense that Christ has given us everything we need to live holy right now. But, sin is always an option in this life. We can always choose to disobey God, the difference for the believer is that we don't HAVE TO disobey God. I hope that helps! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228694 | ||
Tim You made the statement that, " the difference for the believer is that we don't HAVE TO disobey God." Do you then believe the inverse of this is true that an unbeliever has to disobey God? Let us look at adultery, does a unsaved person have to commit adultery? Why does he do it? First he probably thinks there will be not consequences no heaven no hell. Second he likes sex. Third illicit sex is more exciting more full of promise. Now look at the saved man. Does he not have the choice to commit adultery? He still likes sex. He still thinks illicit sex is more exciting or has more promise. But the difference is he knows it has consequences Heaven and hell. He also knows if he really loves Jesus he will obey Jesus. But his nature never changed. Just his knowledge of the certianity of consequences. |
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6 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | Morant61 | 228710 | ||
Greetings EdB! This falls under the category of total depravity. Not every sinner will commit every sin for a number of reasons: personality, courage, opportunity, ect... But, a sinner is not able to live up to God's standard, while a believer is able to do so. Will he? It depends on a number of things. Does that believer saturate his heart and mind with God's Word? Does that believer prayerfully seek God's direction in everything he does? Does that believer listen to and obey the leading of the Spirit of God? If he does, then he will not sin. If he does not, then he could sin, but that sin will be contrary to his new nature, not because of it. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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