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1 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228624 | ||
"But it is noticeable that he concludes the section by declaring that, in spite of what is carnal within him, the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made him free from the law of sin and death. He then goes on to explain why." Then do you feel this supports my hypothesis that sin is no longer a determining factor in our lives anymore. What determines our salvation is the condition of our hearts? That is why Jesus is making constant intercession for us, because our sin don't count? Or do they count but in a different way? If we look at Romans 7 Paul makes the statement that sin is dead to the believer. Yet I think each of us will admit we still deal with it. If something is dead it is no longer a factor. Are we not believers? Or did Paul mean sin was dead as in no longer the determining factor in our relationship with God? |
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2 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | biblicalman | 228627 | ||
When Paul says that man has been 'made free from the law of sin and death' (Rom 8.2) he does not mean that sin and death no longer affect him. For we will all die (assuming that Christ does not come first). What we are delivered from is the final effect of death, because Christ will give us life. In the same way it does not mean that sin will not affect us, it means that finally we will have victory over sin. Sin is vey much a determining factor in our lives. It is constantly at work within us seeking to bring us down ('it is not I but sin which dwells in me' - Rom 7.20). But thsnks be to God we can obtain victory over known sin through our Lord Jesus Christ Rom 7.25). Our sins do not count against us before God because Christ has been made our righteousness (Rom 3.24-25; 1 Cor 1.30). But they certainly count in daily living. To sin is to shame Christ. 'How shall you who are dead to sin, live any longer in it?' (Rom 6.2). But they did. Paul says we are dead to sin, not that sin is dead. Sin is very much alive. But we have to reckon ourselves as dead to sin and alive to God through Jesus Christ our Lord (Rom 6.11). Thus we are to see ourselves as dead to sin. This 'death' is something thst we have to work out in the power of the risen Christ. We should recognise thst we are dead and should therefore allow Christ to live through us. In this way we will overcome known sin. But the principle of sin is deep underneath. it is constantly seeking to make itself felt. In some it tempts to adultery. In others it tempts to be careless in prayer. In others it persuades them away from the study of God's word. All are sin. In others it tempts to complacency. This too is sin. There is no perfect man who does not sin, only in context of the discussion, one who conquers known sin. But we will never be free from sin because our carnal nature prevents us achieving perfection. It prevents us from loving God with heart, soul, mind and strength. It prevents us from always doing what is positively right. As we grow nearer to God we recognise as sin what others see simply as problems of life. None of us will ever live in the perfection in which Jesus Christ lived with His full awareness of the Father and of the Father's will. We are slowly growing into that awareness. Paul's consciousness of his sinful nature expressing itself was not with what we would call sins. It was with his recognition that He was not yet fully like Christ in every aspect of His life. And it grieved him. He recognised that he came short and constantly strove to be more like Christ. But he 'strove' by submission to Christ as the One Who was living through him. We are believers in experiencing salvation. And salvation is not just a once for all forgiveness through the righteousness of Christ (although it is that), it is also a process of being daily transformed by the Spirit from one degree of glory to another (2 Corinthians 3.18). The final aim is to bring us up to the glory of God. But while we live in this life we will always fall short of that glory (Rom 3.23). To Paul sin within was very much alive. What he dealt with was our response to that sin which was by dying with Christ, and experiencing His risen life through our own lives |
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3 | Is sinless perfection possible on earth? | 1 John 1:8 | EdB | 228631 | ||
If we are free of the law, and dead to sin how is it we still sin and that sin can decide our destiny? What are we free of? Man always had the choice to sin or not. Man always had the temptations so what changed? Again I'm not being argumentative and actually we have strayed from my original question. Everyone agrees we are free from the law, Sin no longer has a hold on us, and that we are dead to sin. But what has changed in the relationship of man to sin? No one will claim David had to sin with Bathsheba he did so on his own. So what changed? |
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