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1 | searching for the truth | 1 Cor 11:3 | EdB | 125744 | ||
Tim You opened the door let us walk through. You said, "You used the example of when the 'perfect' has come. Scripture never identifies what the 'perfect' is, so we are speculating when we try to guess." Exactly we don't know what the perfect is because scripture never identified it. Yet a major event is hinged on it. If we say tongues have passed away then the "perfect" has occurred so what is it's identity? If the perfect hasn’t yet come then tongues are for today. What is the answer? You said we must use sola scriptura yet scripture is silent. What then is the answer? If Peter were alive we would go with his decision but then where would Sola Scriptura be? If Paul were alive we accept his decision but again to violation of Sola Scriptura. If any Apostle were alive he would be the decision maker. At one point we would have abided by “The church’s” decision on the issue. However we “arbitrarily” rejected all earthly authority and made a rule if we can’t justify it by scripture it must be wrong. Perhaps that was our error. Is there a chance we missed Christ on this? Is that why we have questions and no answers, apparent contradictions where we know no contradictions exist, 3000 plus denominations instead of one church of Jesus Christ? There is no place in scripture that claims Sola Scriptura. If we use scripture for a model we see men coming together to make decisions that they can all stand in unity over. Later we see the church in various councils coming together to make a decision that they all can stand in unity in. This basically continued again putting political issues aside until the “age of enlightenment” where man decided he was smart enough and therefore needed no other man to tell him what was right and what was wrong. We even made it appear holy and very offical by wordsmithing a slogan like sola scriptura. Something that seems so right but yet doesn’t define the very thing an important event is hinged on. Tim I think you made my case with your statement, “Scripture never identifies what the 'perfect' is…” EdB |
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2 | searching for the truth | 1 Cor 11:3 | Country Girl | 125748 | ||
I've been following all of the posts on this thread as the topic is very interesting but I'm hoping all of you can tackle a somewhat related subject. What do we as modern christians mean when we use the words such as spiritual gifts, speaking in tongues and all other miraculous powers? How do we determine if they're from God or not? What do we use for a standard for that evaluation in today's world? Can we be certain? I'm hoping to get responses from as many of you as possible from the Forum. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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3 | searching for the truth | 1 Cor 11:3 | mark d seyler | 125774 | ||
Hi Country Girl, You've asked a rather involved question, unfortunately I do not have much time. However, I believe the true answer to this question to be extremely important to the correct functioning of the Body of Jesus. Moses wrote that if what a prophet predicts happens, but he leads you to other gods, don't go after him. If someone claims, and even demonstrates, abilities beyond what is normal for humans, but leads into doctrines not in the Bible, it's not a gift from the Spirit. God's Spirit gives us abilities to manifest His caring for us, that it would not be me trying to minister to you just as me, but would be God ministering to you through me. This most interesting discussion of the understanding the Bible is an excellent example. We need to identify those who have a true gift of teaching to help us to understand what the Bible is really telling us. We have to check what they teach to make sure that they are really teaching the truth. If we accept that the gifts as named, described, and taught about in the Bible are still for today, (I do), then we need to submit ourselves to God, and He will distribute as He wills. He will lead us in useing them. We can accept by faith that if we are yielded to God, He will not lead us astray. And the Bible is the Final Authority. Jesus said to examine the fruit. Does the use of a particular gift glorify Jesus? Are people's lives being transformed? I have to go now, but I will continue to follow as I am able. God bless you! Mark |
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