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1 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | Lionstrong | 3139 | ||
In my Greek-Enlish New Testament it has the literal translation as "But on the one of the week..." Three questions followed for me: What do the other Gospel accounts say, and is "mia" ever translated "first" in any other portion of the NT, and does the word "first" make sence in the context of the sentence? According to the Greek Dictionary in the NASB Exhaustive Concordnace mia (reference number 3391) is the feminine form of "eis heis" (reference number 1520) which is translated "first" nine times in the NASB: Matt. 28:1, Mk 16:2, Jn 20:1, Jn 20:19, Acts. 20:, ICor 16:2, Titus 3:10, and Rev 9:12. So "one of the week" must be a Greek idiom whch does not translate smoothly into English, just as some American English idioms would not translate well into other languages if it were translated word for word. I suppose it could have been translated, "on the first of the week" leaving the word "day" to be understood. So Jesus died and was buried on the sixth of the week, remained dead on the seventh, and rose on the first of the week. | ||||||
2 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | religious_bob | 3222 | ||
If you want to understand the "idiom" you have to look at what the firsdt points to. The word translated as week is really the sabbath. the phrase should read "the first of the sabbaths". Check out the site www.parsimony.com for greater detail on the appointed festivals and their relationship to the ressurection. Bob Taraskiewicz |
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3 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | Lionstrong | 3322 | ||
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my remarks, Bob. Now, are you saying that sabbaton is never properly translated week? Besides in the Greek it's singular "sabbaton" not plural "sabbata" as in Acts 17:2. In the NASB the word is translated "week" nine times. Seven of those nine times its in the phrase "first of the week," and two of those seven times is outside the Gospels, Acts 20:7 and I Cor 16:2. In John 20:19 it's very clear that the phrase is refering to a day of the week and not a Jewish holiday. Thanks again. | ||||||
4 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | religious_bob | 3395 | ||
I am using the Zondervan NASB Exhaustive Concordance and for Strong's word 4521, there are fifty eight renderings for sabbath and nine for week. Of the nine translated week, six refer to the time of the resurrection, a time immediately after Passover when there are more than one sabbath in a week, so there would naturally be a "first of the sabbaths" and a later sabbath. The passage in Acts also refers to the Days of Unleavened Bread where the above applies. The passage in first Corinthians doesn't make clear what time if yeat it is. For further study, I refer you also to check out www.parsimony.com. Thank you and if you want to correspond directly please reply again. | ||||||
5 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | Lionstrong | 3457 | ||
Thanks for looking up the word, Bob. But again, just as some have asked "why day?" when the word is not in the Greek, I ask why plural when the Greek is singular? Also if a particular week has more than one sabbath in it, it still falls on a day of the week. Since the weekly Sabbath always falls on the 7th day, then if this is the "first" of Sabbaths, it falls on a day before the 7th day of the week. The last Sabbath of the week would be, of course on the last day of the week, the 7th. So which day of the week does the first of Sabbaths fall on? | ||||||
6 | lets stick to original text! | Luke 24:1 | religious_bob | 3486 | ||
First off, I am glad that we can take time to reason this out. I am not an educated Bible scholar, I am a seeker of truth. My aim is not to dispute the Bible, but to point out the truth in it, indeed, the truth will set you free (John 8:32). Besides the books that I have already listed, I am using Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the NT along with Kohlenbergers Greek-English Concordance. From both of those reference sources the word sabbaton is described as plural (Sabbaths), but mistranslated as singular (week). I cannot begin to compare myself to these men, but with a humble heart I have asked Yahweh (God) for wisdom (James 1:5). I am sorry that I did not explain about the counting of Sabbaths. The Jewish feast of Passover is followed 50 days later by the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost). In Leviticus 23:3-21 the command is given to Moses about counting seven Sabbaths from the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Feast of Weeks. It didn't matter which day of the week it fell on. Passover was on the 14th of Nisan (Aviv), the next day was first day of Unleavened Bread, and in respect to Passover week, the weekly Sabbath was called the first of the Sabbaths leading up to Pentecost. I hope that answers most of your questions and maybe raises some more. I will be here for more follow-ups. |
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