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1 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | kalos | 139916 | ||
WHERE are they taken? NASB Luke 17:34 "I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left." "One will be taken" implies that one will be taken someWHERE. So the question "WHERE are they taken?" is a reasonable one. In the PLAIN TEXT and in the immediate context (Luke 17:26-37), WHERE are they taken? Note: Luke 17:[36] [37] (ESV) And they said to him, "WHERE, Lord?" He said to them, "WHERE the corpse is, there the vultures will gather" (emphasis added). In the text the question is, "WHERE, Lord?" In the text the answer to the question is, "WHERE the corpse is, there the vultures will gather." I ask: "WHERE the corpse is" -- does this sound like heaven and rewards? Or does it sound like hell and judgment? I ask: WHERE the vultures will gather -- does this sound like heaven and rewards? Or does it sound like hell and judgment? ************* Luke 17:26-37 (ESV) [26] Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. [27] They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. [28] Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, [29] but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom, fire and sulfur rained from heaven and destroyed them all— [30] so will it be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed. [31] On that day, let the one who is on the housetop, with his goods in the house, not come down to take them away, and likewise let the one who is in the field not turn back. [32] Remember Lot's wife. [33] Whoever seeks to preserve his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will keep it. [34] I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. [35] There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left." [36] [37] And they said to him, "Where, Lord?" He said to them, "Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather." |
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2 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | Jeff W | 139934 | ||
Hello kalos, Sooooo many people overlook these verses. This question that the disciples ask Jesus is so pertinant to the deception on the "rapture" teaching that is so prevalant. Those who are taken are taken to hell and judgement just like you stated. Where the vultures are gathered together. The "Left Behind" deception has swept over the world with a cloud of darkness which has blinded the eyes, and understanding of millions of God's children. Those who believe in the pre-trib rapture position think that we will have a second chance after God "raptures" His church. Is there any examples throughout scripture of second chances? Noah? Sodom and Gomorrah? Korah's rebellion? Any second chances? This world will be destroyed by fire, and if we are not in the ark of safety: Jesus Christ, we will be consumed with it. God Bless you Jeff W |
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3 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | justme | 140029 | ||
Jeff W: Greetings, I see you are new to the Study Bible Forum. I too am not impressed with the "Left Behind" fictional books. Infact I have made several notes to this myself. However, to say the "Those who believe in the pre-trib rapture position think that we will have a second chance after God "raptures" His church."is incorrect. May I suggest an excellent resource, that I have found helps explain all these various positions on the Rapture, and the Millennium. The book I am refering you to is the very latest and most extensive work on these subjects yet to come our way. This book is not light reading at all, it takes endurance and sticking with it, but the reward is worth it. The book is REVELATION FOUR VIEWS A PARALLEL COMMENTARY by Steve Gregg, published by Thomas Nelson Piblishers. In this book you might, as I did, find that there are several combinations of theories and as we mature in knowledge of the Word, we might at some later date change our position a little or even a lot. There just is no other work that compaires to Gregg's thorough handling of such a complex subject. Personally I tend to be a post-trib, and lean toward the mix of Futurist and Historicist understanding of Revelation. I hope I have awakened your interest enough to do some deeper studies, and enjoy the Word of God more. Blessings. justme |
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4 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | Jeff W | 140114 | ||
Hello, I appreciate all the studies and commentaries that are out there, but I try to limit my studies to the Word of God only. Sure sometimes I might use strongs, or a bible dictionary, but I have skimmed through many commentaries, and foind that they are the easiest way to take our focus off the simplicity of the gospel as brought to us by oue Great Example Jesus. His simplicity is so profound that even a child can understand His Word. I don't condemn anyone for wanting to move along in their studies, but I would like to encourage all who use commentaries to be careful to not overwrite God's word with them. God Bless you Jeff W |
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5 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | justme | 140133 | ||
Jeff W: I have often felt that there are so many books to attempt to tell us what the Bible says, that the low man (book) on the bottom is barried out of sight! I too, see that some Christians have become experts on the Bible based on reading the commentaries, rather that reading the Bible for themselves. So we have some agreement in what you said. However, in your orignal note, that I made reference to, you were mistaken in what the pre-trib belief is. That is where we do need information so we can dialogue intellegently about what others really believe, rather than make ignorant statements that cause us to appear stupid. I do have several sets of commentaries, and they were very useful while I was a pastor, and now I find they enrich my personal study of God's Word. I Like the historical background and the understanding of the culture when the book was written. For me these are important to know. Any thoughts, or questions. Blessings. justme |
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6 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | Jeff W | 140480 | ||
Hello, I use to believe in the pre trib rapture, but after years of reading the Word of God, and listening to the bible on cassette all night, driving in my car, pretty much wherever I went, for many years, the Lord convicted me about His word being plain as day. The commentaries are beneficial for getting the setting for the book, and there are many other benefits, but I hear too much commentary when I quote verses and get presumption, and suppposition in return. There are many who are led to believe that when the church is "raptured" then they can get ready for Jesus to come again. This is the second chance I am referring. This is not an ignorant statement because The Lord has given me the priviledge to study with many evey night for years, and this is what I was hearing, even I used to believe that. God Bless you Jeff W |
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7 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | DocTrinsograce | 140490 | ||
Hi, Brother Jeff! I'm certainly no expert on eschatology. In fact, if anything, I've rather tended to ignore the question. I suppose I've done that out of a discomfort that I feel for something that attracts so much attention without any obvious change in lives. However, once I spent a week or so looking at every scripture reference to the following Greek words: epiphaneia (Strongs 2015) (appearing) parousia (Strongs 3952) (advent) hupostrepho (Strongs 5290) (return) erchomai (Strongs 2064) (coming) I tried to compile everything I could find out about each, and integrate them into a whole. (I was a little naive at the time, thinking that perhaps I could settle the pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib issues altogether. (By the way, I tend to be pre-millennial, but I have to confess that I don't have terribly solid ground on which to base that belief.)) Well, I wish I could say my conclusions put the whole issue to bed. :-) However, when I finished the research, the post-tribulation rapture looked to have a bit stronger Biblical support. By the way, Corrie ten Boom used to quite angrily denounce pre-tribulation rapture teaching. (It isn't as common outside of the United States.) She felt that it placed people into the kind of complacency that you mentioned. Anyway... just thought you might be interested. In Him, Doc |
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8 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:36 | Jeff W | 140704 | ||
Hello Doc, Amen brother, I believe the post trib has much more scriptural support that any other, because in my humble opinion the Word of God is one way or the other, I don't believe God would, very graciously give us His word, and leave us guessing about it. The scriptures are very cut and dry. And although there may seem to be many gray areas, in time the Holy Spirit will reveal them if we truly seek Him with our whole heart. God Bless you Jeff W |
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