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1 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | Ray | 77620 | ||
Hi graceful, I hope that disciplerami won't mind me asking you a question that has nothing to do about this thread and his question. I want to ask you about the use of your slash in the post here. I do the same thing sometimes and my question is "What is the relationship between the combined words?" For instance, I use the slash when I talk about the God/Man. I think of Jesus always as a Man, being in the form of God; although He was also a Man being in the likeness of men. Please note my capitalization. So, what I am leading to is that I use the slash mark to always combine Deity; God/Man. In your profile you use Son/Word. I would say Holy Spirit/Teacher rather than your "Holy Spirit/teacher and power of God in me to serve." Again, I am only talking about capitalization. You have written an excellent profile, but I am only asking a question. Do you think that we should link (unequally yoke?) Deity with attributes, for instance? Word/truth for instance? Personally, I would type Word/Truth and say the the Scriptures are word/truth. What are your thoughts? Sorry for a somewhat wierd question. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | gracefull | 77644 | ||
Hi Ray, You have a posed an interestin question concerning Diety/attributes. I should have chosen Word/Truth, because I see them as diety based on the following verses: John 1:14 (always where the Word is concerned) Jesus/Word/Truth John 17:17 Thy Word is Truth (my caps) 11 Peter 1:21 (paraphrased) All scripture is propheticly uttered through men by the Holy Spirit. Is this what you see? Word/Truth equals diety word/truth equals scripture This is what I see.. My (penciled) correction I see Word/Truth equals diety revealed I am unable to distinguish between scripture and diety, the Triune God and His/Their Word (scripture) are inseperable. With humans it is easy to seperate their words from who they are, but this is not the case with God. He ans His Word are inseperable. What do you think? Your question was not at all wierd, but rather thought provoking. Your sister in the Christ |
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3 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | Ray | 77661 | ||
Hi gracefull, I appreciate your hearing me out, and even making some changes. I had to smile at your (penciled) mode of change; isn't great that we can change our minds without fear, sending us back over and over to reconsider what is true. We want to know Him who is the Truth. The one place where I have penciled in a phrase is "Thy Word is Truth." I know that "Thy word is truth", is correct for John 17:17. But Thy Word is Truth gives too much glory to the Son alone to my mind, even in a context outside of the Scriptures. I believe that Jesus and the Father are one. They are the Way and the Truth in the one God. I add a pronoun that is implied in the Greek for Philippians 2:13. I think that it is important for understanding the Teacher and the Way of salvation. Philippians 2:13, "for it is God who is the *One who is at work in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure." We are thinking of these things and doing these things without grumbling or disputing, proving that we are children of this one Life. This is because we hold fast the word of life. 1 John 4:1, "By this you know the *spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God;..." I see the life of God in the Scriptures but I think that we have to keep in mind that not only is He God on paper or papyrus; He is God with us in the flesh. So I would say that you should distinguish between scripture and diety or as I would say Scripture and Deity.:) (No unequal yoke, either way). Can I influence you to pencil in a change toward "His/Their word (scripture) are inseparable"? I believe the triune God is three in one God and/or the Triune God is Three in One. I think that He and His Word are one. I think that we should distinguish the Word from the word (Holy Bible). This is hard on paper because most people want to give honor to the Scriptures by capitalization of Word. Thanks for your thoughts. From the heart, Ray |
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4 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | gracefull | 78173 | ||
Hi Ray, I really only have a few minutes, but did not want you to think I was not going to respond. First I have a question. You said,"Thy Word is Truth gives too much glory to the Son alone in my mind, even in a context outside of scripture." Since Jesus is praying to the Father and is speaking that the Father's Word is Truth. How is this giving too much glory to Jesus? When Jesus receive glory, the Father receives glory an when the Father receives glory, so does Jesus...they are one and are not in competitin of each other. Purhaps I do not understand what you are saying and you would clarify? Philippians 2 I see This is because we hold fast the Word of Life. Here again I see revealed scripture (scripture where one is enlightened by the Holy Spirit as Christ living in and transformung me into His image. Word/Jesus/Life 1John 4:1 "by this you know the 'Spirit of God: every spirit (human or angelic) that confesses that Jesus the Messiah (Christ) has come int he flesh is from God; and every spirit (human or angelic)that does not confess Jesus is not from God... You asked "Can I influence you to pencil in a change toward "His/Their word(scripture)are inseperable"? That makes sense because I do use the word scripture when speaking of the 'papyrus'but when using 'Word' I am unifying the trinity in the truth being presented. John 17:17 Jesus said Thy Word ia Truth, and John 1:1 Jesus is the Word come in flesh, and the the Holy Spirit in 11 Peter 1:21 the Holy Spirit speaks. Summary: God the Father IS and Jesus came presenting us the Father's Word by living example, and the sent the holy Spirit to reveal to our spirit the Word and transform us into the image of Christ who is the image of the Father. Good points to ponder, God bless |
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5 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | Ray | 78193 | ||
Hi graceful, I believe that John 17:17 should be rendered as it is in the NASB, "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth." I can't think of one place where Scriptures talk of God's Word. I was comparing that verse with 2 Thessalonians 2:13 tonight. I would like to talk more but I don't have much time. I'll also probably be away from the computer for a few days, so, later. By the way, do you have any interest in counting the pronouns of John 17? I count a total that is divisible by three; and I continue to give praise to our triune God. From the heart, Ray |
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6 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | gracefull | 78217 | ||
Hi, Ray You can respond when you get back if you like. So by the statement "I can't think of one place where Scriptures talk of God's Word" are you saying: I can't think of one place where Scripture is defined as God's Word? Would this be an accurate paraphrase? Your scriptures are truth. I interpret it as "Sanctify them in the Truth; Your Word is Truth." Because I do not believe scripture sanctifies ( Holiness of life, the quality or condition of being considered sacred) because many quote scripture and teach scripture from an intelectual perspective but the scripture has not sanctified them in their heart).Only the Holy Spirit breathed Truth in our heart transforms us. Is sanctification simply the external setting apart or the internal transformation? If sanctification is the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit then Word is Truth fits. 2Thess.2:13 seems to agree. 'salvation through the sanctifying work of the (Holy) Spirit and (your) belief in (adherence to, trust in and reliance on) the Truth. This is so much more than mental assent to the words printed on the page, but progresses to actively believing/doing/becoming what the revealed Truth burns in our spirit. Counting pronouns in John? I do not know if I have time but will pray about it. God bless, and looking forward to talking when you get back. |
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7 | Why couldn't Herod have Herodias? | Mark 6:18 | Ray | 80161 | ||
Hi gracefull, Sorry for not getting back to you before now. I never did go on my trip because just before finalizing my plans I slipped on ice, falling flat on my back. So, with a sore wrist from trying to catch myself and a sore back I decided not to go. But, I've been busy with other things also. Now I'm wondering if we should discuss this at another thread since it has nothing at all to do with Herod. Perhaps we can start a thread somewhere between John 17:14-20. Among these verses are three occurances of "truth" and three occurances of "word". How many of these do you see as Deity rather than simply the word of God? That is the question I will enter for us. From the heart, Ray |
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